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cliffw
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DEC 30, 09:51 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Cliff closing a thread about "Free Speech" which evidently is not free. |
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
It is and always was free, but also always had and still can/does carry consequences.
Choices.
Consequences.
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Did the choice of free speech cause Hamilton's death or was it his decision / choice to enter a duel?[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 12-30-2020).]
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sourmash
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DEC 30, 10:12 AM
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So did Hamilton fire into the air as was customary and Burr didn't? I remember listening to a lecture of the event but don't recall that specific detail of what each did.
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2.5
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DEC 30, 10:47 AM
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Idiots who suddenly realized they needed to get self defense weapons...but then still voted for anti 2nd amendment politicians.
Or even those who still wanted to defund the police.
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2.5
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DEC 30, 10:52 AM
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sourmash
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DEC 30, 11:08 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Antifa being fascist? |
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They're definitely establishment shock troops and are behaving the identical way that they were in Germany against nationalism. Not sure I understand (totally) fascism. Fascism is a term people don't really understand so it's always used to mean something learned in propaganda training to be thrown like a stone at someone else. NAZI and fascist aren't what Nazis or fascists were. It's not my wheelhouse to understand/explain it but the Italians were Fascists. The Germans were National Socialist. It's my understanding that the Brown Shirts were created as an answer the Antifa brutality because the nationalists were being violently attacked in rallies. Sound familiar? Propaganda programs want to turn that the other way around. I listen to Mike Rivero's show regularly. He loves to call Antifa "Brown shirts" and describes them acting like NAZIs. He says it really nasally too. NAZIs. Lol. Since he has a Sepharic background, he knows the actual truth is different.
Someone recently described the current Chinese ideology as being closer to National Socialsim than Soviet era communism. Soviets had to convert as many people/countries as possible because the government was the only producer of goods/services for those people. But the Chinese don't have to convert/create more communist nations. They allow non-governmental groups to produce goods to sell products to other nations without overthrowing them through totalitarianism or authoritarianism.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 12-30-2020).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 30, 01:35 PM
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Why do you listen to Mike Rivero? Is this like "opposition research" on your part? If he knows that the actual truth is different, do you like that he is not expressing the actual truth? Maybe it's for good reason that he is not being completely forthcoming on this aspect of it?
Those were the first questions that come to mind.
But now, a new question comes to mind. When you say that Mike Rivero has a "Sepharic" (think that's more commonly "Sephardic") background, do you mean that he is of Sephardic ancestry? Or does that mean that he has done some research and has acquired some knowledge about people of Sephardic ancestry that most of us are not aware of?
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sourmash
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DEC 30, 07:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Why do you listen to Mike Rivero? Is this like "opposition research" on your part? If he knows that the actual truth is different, do you like that he is not expressing the actual truth? Maybe it's for good reason that he is not being completely forthcoming on this aspect of it?
Those were the first questions that come to mind.
But now, a new question comes to mind. When you say that Mike Rivero has a "Sepharic" (think that's more commonly "Sephardic") background, do you mean that he is of Sephardic ancestry? Or does that mean that he has done some research and has acquired some knowledge about people of Sephardic ancestry that most of us are not aware of?
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1) How does a person know what he believes if he doesn't listen to an opposing view point? But Mike doesn't have many that differ from mine. He's very articulate and covers lots of current issues from the independent & alternative press view points in a short period of time. The callers can be extremey informative too. Some really suck, but some are entertaining, mentally challenged or not.
2) My lap top doesn't like several characters, so the D didn't take, It doesn't like 1, 7 and F either. There are a couple of others with a problem.
3) Mike complains that he's one conversion away from being a rich Hollywood Jew, lol. Says his family was forced to convert in The Inquisition, but really that was still a choice they made while others continued to secretly maintain their religion. IRL his motion picture career ending when he discovered Vince Foster didn't kill himself in Fort Marcey Park and went public about it.
He used to constantly report on priest sex abuse reports. In an email response to me when I asked why he targets Catholics he said on air that he has strong protective views about children. So I responded that he never reports on the Jewish rabbi sex abuse reports when it's nearly a right of passage for boys around 8 years old in the Orthodox movement. He tried to brush it off, but that didn't work.
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Hudini
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DEC 30, 10:57 PM
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Irony is passing around cigarettes outside the hospital where a family member is dying from throat cancer while wondering how he got the throat cancer.
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sourmash
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DEC 30, 11:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
Irony is passing around cigarettes outside the hospital where a family member is dying from throat cancer while wondering how he got the throat cancer. |
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[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 12-30-2020).]
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randye
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DEC 30, 11:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
It's my understanding that the Brown Shirts were created as an answer the Antifa brutality because the nationalists were being violently attacked in rallies.
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That's "sorta / kinda" true.
Actually the National Socialist "Brown Shirts", or more properly Sturmabteilung / SA, were founded during the genesis of the NSDAP ("Nazi party") between 1919 and 1921
"Antifa" was actually formed at the 4th COMINTERN (the 4th World Congress of the Communist Party) in Moscow in December of 1922
The "KPD" (Communist Party of Germany) was suffering in popularity at the hands of the rising NSDAP so the Communist World Congress of 1922 formed their "Antifaschisitsche Aktion" (Antifa), to engage in a street war in Germany against the NSDAP.
BOTH the NSDAP, (National Socialists Workers Party a/k/a "Nazis) AND Antifa (as well as the Soviet Communists who formed Antifa) were ALL MARXISTS.
Ironically Antifa and the "Nazis" were two sides of the same Marxist coin fighting for political control of Germany.
Antifa resurfaced in Germany in the mid-late 1950's and were quite visible, yet fairly harmless, when I was stationed there in my military days in the late 70s.
With the Communist DDR just across the inter-German border, the West German Federal government kept a firm fist on Antifa until 1989 when the Berlin wall came down.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-31-2020).]
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