Free Speech Lives !!! (Page 2/4)
sourmash DEC 18, 10:58 PM
However, there's no free speech if a pastor (or anyone) were to stand on a public street quoting bible scripture that homosexual male behavior is an abomination before God.
Likewise there is no free speech for publicly questioning any part of the holocaust claims of WWII Germany.
MidEngineManiac DEC 18, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

However, there's no free speech if a pastor (or anyone) were to stand on a public street quoting bible scripture that homosexual male behavior is an abomination before God.
Likewise there is no free speech for publicly questioning any part of the holocaust claims of WWII Germany.



Sure there is...Just remember a right to speak does not mean a right to an audience.

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rinselberg DEC 18, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

However, there's no free speech if a pastor (or anyone) were to stand on a public street quoting bible scripture that homosexual male behavior is an abomination before God.

Likewise there is no free speech for publicly questioning any part of the holocaust claims of WWII Germany.


There's a certain amount of "red tape" with the city or county government or police that you or I would be required to complete BEFORE engaging in any public assembly and speech of that kind. But there's First Amendment protection for it. It CAN be done.

Am I misinformed?

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MidEngineManiac DEC 18, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


Am I misinformed?




Meh.....Politically...

In a "perfect" world you could walk down the street rambling about how the shadeballs have saved the deterioration of Amelia Earhart's wreckage due to sunlight reflection....no permit or permission required

Anybody who thought you were off your rocker would simply walk away saying .

Nobody would think they have the power to get in your face and say "You cant say that !!".

The difference between left and right. The are want the power and the right are always telling them just shut up and go away.
sourmash DEC 18, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

Sure there is...Just remember a right to speak does not mean a right to an audience.l



That's an article from the UK? If so, then no. Or maybe it's only London, but if you make either statement in public (period), you are subject to arrest and charges.

It's England. No free speech. Only permitted speech.

"Sir Mark David John Warby (born 10 October 1958), styled The Hon. Mr Justice Warby, is a judge of the High Court of England and Wales."

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MidEngineManiac DEC 19, 03:03 PM
It's not what you are saying (here anyway). Street preachers and pamphleteers (standing around handing out bibles or watchtower magazine or books or something) isnt new at all in Ontario. Nobody bothered with it until these 2 yahoos came along and made asses of themselves. I've personally had to tell them to FRO more than a few time before I left London (LOL, seems 1/2 the city did)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/can...-preachers-1.5095811
sourmash DEC 19, 03:14 PM
Nor here, but the story is in England, right? No free speech in England. You have permitted speech only. Thou shalt not offend a homosexual with scripture about it being a sin. This particular homo wanted to extend the restricted speech and failed.

There is no free speech in England.
maryjane DEC 19, 06:50 PM
Is this an example of the type free speech being discussed?

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...15-1-061687.html#p18

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...15-1-061687.html#p28

Choices have consequences..
MidEngineManiac DEC 19, 07:12 PM
I really do forget what movie the quote comes from, but it fits perfectly.

"If you want forgiveness go to church. They might. I wont. Ever."

It's actually a pretty simple philosophy...once called freedom.

I don't like bullies. I don't like power-trippers. I don't like holier-than-thou's and I don't like political-correctness and all the "you cant say that"..."You cant think that"..."you cant have that"

Yeh ? Really ?

I just did. And I'll do it again, go pound sand. Got a specific charge and evidence then lay it, otherwise shut your pig yap and get out of my existence. This is a free country I once defended, not a 3rd-world police state. You are not in charge of my existance. I am.

Is THAT clear enough, Don ??????

Oh yeh...I fogot one thing. I'll decide my own beliefs and anybody who doesnt like it should join Jonestown and drink your own kool-aid

Again, as a Canadian its my right and I said so.....kiss my ass if you dont like it.

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maryjane DEC 20, 11:13 PM

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Is this an example of the type free speech being discussed?



Tho you did go on yet another patented MeM type rant, you didn't answer my question.

Do I need to rephrase it or include different links?