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rinselberg
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DEC 04, 10:57 AM
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I never thought that I would be doing this, but I am here to say "thank you" to forum member randye for the two messages on this thread that precede this one.
Such is "life" in the New Forum Rules era that was ushered in on August 15, 2020 (if memory serves me) by this forum's owner and moderator, Cliff Pennock.
As far as Mike Flynn being able to bring a lawsuit against the federal government and win, garnering significant money (some millions of dollars) to make him whole for the legal expenses that he incurred... I dunno. That article that randye put up was published in May, so the new element is the pardon that Flynn has from President Trump. I'm hardly the person to speculate about how that would factor into any such lawsuit, or a decision by Mike Flynn to bring such a lawsuit. But I think it should be remarked. The pardon.
As far as the second message, with the article about President Obama having granted a pardon to another retired general, James E. Cartwright...it's good to know. It doesn't make me any more sympathetic to Mike Flynn or to President Trump, but it's well to remark. There's one word that I think does not get the attention that it deserves during the various discussions about Mike Flynn. It's the name of another nation. "Turkey." The Republic of Turkey.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-04-2020).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 04, 07:47 PM
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Federal judge raises questions about the validity of the pardon that President Trump has granted to Michael Flynn
| quote | On Friday, U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton suggested that fellow federal Judge Emmet Sullivan could conclude that President Donald Trump’s recent pardon of Michael Flynn was “too broad.” As Walton put it, Sullivan could take “the position that the wording of the pardon is too broad, in that it provides protections beyond the date of the pardon.” Specifically, Trump’s pardon for Flynn covers “any and all possible offenses” stemming from information that the federal government has gathered against him. Trump issued this pardon some time after the Justice Department, as led by Attorney General Bill Barr, moved to drop its case against Flynn altogether, but Sullivan has not granted this motion.
Walton made his comments in a public records case in which CNN and Buzzfeed News “want the records from Flynn’s FBI interviews to be reprocessed in light of the pardon, revealing information that was initially shielded due to an exemption tied to ongoing prosecutions,” as Law(.com) explains. Walton ordered the release of re-processed Flynn records by January 15, insisting that he wanted the records handled with the Trump administration in place. Courtney Enlow, an attorney with the Department of Justice, had asked for a deadline of February. |
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Caleb Newton for Bipartisan Report; December 4, 2020.
https://bipartisanreport.co...trumps-flynn-pardon/[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-04-2020).]
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randye
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DEC 04, 09:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I never thought that I would be doing this, but I am here to say "thank you" to forum member randye for the two messages on this thread that precede this one.
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I'm always happy to show that you are as DEAD WRONG as you always are, especially on matters political and legal.
I don't know what your weird obsession with General Flynn is all about, but it's clear that he consumes a great deal of space alongside President Trump inside your head.
BTW, Reggie Walton has violated several Federal Judicial Rules of Conduct by speaking out on ANY aspect of the Flynn case / pardon since Walton is STILL adjudicating remaining aspects of the Mueller investigation with respect to AG William Barr. Hopefully Walton will now be forced to recuse himself or face disciplinary action, or both.
Since you live completely immersed in a world of nothing but Leftist media propaganda NONE of that would have been fed to you.
You're Welcome[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-05-2020).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 05, 01:30 PM
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I'll be keeping my eye out for news about Reggie Walton's involvement in matters related to Flynn.
The "emptywheel" blog has a new commentary on these matters.
"Failsons and Kraken conspiracies: Three Mike Flynn hypotheticals [that] Trump may have tried to preemptively pardon"
It starts with Reggie Walton and his comments about the Flynn pardon. It reviews the specifics of the pardon. And then it segues to three scenarios involving Mike Flynn and how the pardon might (or might not) be invoked to protect Flynn against these as yet hypothetical legal perils.
A fascinating read of the same high quality that has kept "emptywheel" fans coming back for more since the blog's very first post.
Read-o-Meter: 8 minutes.
Tags: Bijan Kian, Ekim Alptekin, Emmet Sullivan, Mike Flynn, Reggie Walton, Sidney Powell
Page link:
https://www.emptywheel.net/...preemptively-pardon/[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-05-2020).]
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williegoat
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DEC 05, 01:48 PM
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 05, 03:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
BTW, Reggie Walton has violated several Federal Judicial Rules of Conduct by speaking out on ANY aspect of the Flynn case / pardon since Walton is STILL adjudicating remaining aspects of the Mueller investigation with respect to AG William Barr. Hopefully Walton will now be forced to recuse himself or face disciplinary action, or both.
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Nothing ever happens, look at Clinton. We know she broke the law and nothing was done.
Its sad that we are forced to choose the lessor of two evils instead of those that would bring us into a new age.
Love or hate Trump he was a product of that.
Now we are being put back into the hands of politicians that have had a life time to make a difference and well here we are.
When the laws change and make criminals of us all who will be there to stand for us? Not those in office that would take a knee for those that burn and pillage.
There are no good politicians, just those that haven't been caught.
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rinselberg
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DEC 05, 06:29 PM
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We all have a preexisting condition. We are all mortal.
Jake's message makes me think "Rorschach test" and that's my first response.
Actually it's my second response. At first I thought back to a moment during a presentation from Joseph Campbell (it was on TV) and Campbell said (in just about these same words) that the tragedy wasn't that Martin Luther King was assassinated. The tragedy was that Martin Luther King was mortal. But Campbell wasn't focusing on MLK in any political context. He wasn't making any kind of statement about civil rights, or race, or the history of race relations. I guess it could be condensed to the "human condition."[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-05-2020).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 05, 09:40 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Nothing ever happens. Look at Clinton. We know she broke the law and nothing was done.
It's sad that we are forced to choose the lessor of two evils instead of those that would bring us into a new age. Love or hate Trump, [but] he was a product of that. Now we are being put back into the hands of politicians that have had a life time to make a difference and well here we are.
When the laws change and make criminals of us all who will be there to stand for us? Not those in office that would take a knee for those that burn and pillage. There are no good politicians, just those that haven't been caught. |
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The lessor of two evils? Is one of the evils available? I'd like to lease it, or if that's not available, I'd like to rent it. I'm looking for a monthly rate.
I'm just feeling "improv"... or "extra." I have the use of a desktop Mac with a full-sized keyboard and a generously-sized video monitor. So if someone else is pecking away at their mobile phone when they are posting... well, if I were doing it that way, I wouldn't be all that accurate myself with the "niceties" like spelling, punctuation, paragraph breaks and such.
I seek no animosity with Jake, but I find that message unsettling. And not because of the surely unintended transformation of "lesser" into "lessor."
I had more here, but returning after a break--I just did away with it.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-05-2020).]
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randye
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DEC 06, 06:01 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Nothing ever happens, look at Clinton. We know she broke the law and nothing was done.
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Reggie Walton blocked a perfectly legal and proper FOIA request for DOJ documents relating to the Hildabeast email / classified data leaks investigation,
THEN he turned his attention to "un-redacting" the declassified data released to the public by AG William Barr in the Mueller Mess, (a/k/a "investigation"), on behalf of the Leftist propaganda rag "Buzzfeed".
Now Reg is attempting to keep himself "in the game" with his improper, and possibly illegal, public opining on the Flynn pardon with his musings on somehow "nullifying" a legal Presidential pardon.
Ol' Reg was a Bush appointee to the DC Circuit and has since proven to have become completely subsumed into the putrid scum of the DC swamp.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-09-2020).]
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sourmash
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DEC 06, 06:10 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
The lessor of two evils? Is one of the evils available? I'd like to lease it, or if that's not available, I'd like to rent it. I'm looking for a monthly rate.
I'm just feeling "improv"... or "extra." I have the use of a desktop Mac with a full-sized keyboard and a generously-sized video monitor. So if someone else is pecking away at their mobile phone when they are posting... well, if I were doing it that way, I wouldn't be all that accurate myself with the "niceties" like spelling, punctuation, paragraph breaks and such.
I seek no animosity with Jake, but I find that message unsettling. And not because of the surely unintended transformation of "lesser" into "lessor."
I had more here, but returning after a break--I just did away with it.
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Someone must getting paid for number of times he can post "I".
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