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blackrams
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NOV 16, 01:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by tebailey:
You mean programs that help the working Americans, and not just the billionaires? |
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Nope, I typed and said precisely what I intended to say.
Those that won't pull their own weight don't deserved any help. Get caught hiding income and don't pass go, go directly to jail and lose. Those that make less, pay less, those that make more pay more of their income.
IMHO, the only fair tax would be a flat rate tax with no loop holes or deductible items, no break for having children, you make so much money and pay a percentage of that amount in income tax regardless of what you make, everyone pays their fair share. No, if, ands or bullshit. No one should get a free ride. Charities and churches can pick up the slack.
Yeah, I'm a hard ass.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 11-16-2020).]
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2.5
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NOV 16, 02:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by tebailey:
You mean programs that help the working Americans, and not just the billionaires? |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn-1bVPcNNE
Marxism trains people to be jealous and to blame.
Talking points from leftist media / liberal politicians.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 11-16-2020).]
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olejoedad
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NOV 16, 02:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by tebailey:
You mean programs that help the working Americans, and not just the billionaires? |
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I doubt you realize this, but you are pretty much clueless.
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tebailey
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NOV 16, 04:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Nope, I typed and said precisely what I intended to say.
Those that won't pull their own weight don't deserved any help. Get caught hiding income and don't pass go, go directly to jail and lose. Those that make less, pay less, those that make more pay more of their income.
IMHO, the only fair tax would be a flat rate tax with no loop holes or deductible items, no break for having children, you make so much money and pay a percentage of that amount in income tax regardless of what you make, everyone pays their fair share. No, if, ands or bullshit. No one should get a free ride. Charities and churches can pick up the slack.
Yeah, I'm a hard ass.
Rams
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You do realize that the super rich are paying less than working families. That last $1.5 trillion cut went straight to them. You would have really hated Eisenhower, he taxed the rich up to 90%. Imagine the man in charge of operation overlord that drove the Nazis out of europe would be on the top of your list of "socialists".
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cvxjet
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NOV 16, 04:40 PM
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The old conservatives were for lower taxes for >>ALL<< (Including the poor and middle class) and also cutting waste and fraud from the gov't budget...New "Conservatives" are for NO TAXES on the ultra rich (Especially anyone named Trump) and big spending- especially the Military which should only be used to protect major corporate interests.
Actually, in the future, the new "Conservatives" want to eliminate taxes for everyone....But the poor and middle class will then have to pay "Tribute" to lord Trump.
The liberals have always been stupid "Tax and spend"....But the new "conservatives" are "Spend and don't pay fer nuthin'"
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randye
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NOV 16, 05:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by tebailey:
You do realize that the super rich are paying less than working families. That last $1.5 trillion cut went straight to them.
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary PROOF.
Got any?
...and NO, some dipshit, Leftist, opinion article won't cut it. Let's see objective, documented, proof of your wild claim.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 11-16-2020).]
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2.5
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NOV 16, 05:07 PM
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Some thoughts for you. Tebailey seems to have everyone classified in their little boxes already. The persecuted and the persecutors.
I think the first thing to do is determine if you are talking about "programs" (entitlements) or taxes.
You see Trump as a lord? A dictator? His policies are pro capitalism, here is a way to classify people in boxes for you , everyone is a capitalist. Everyone everywhere.
As for "lowering" or "eliminating" taxes, "tax and spend", etc. People see taxes are being spent on the wrong things, squandered. So people want less taxes, so less are squandered. They know they'll never get to no taxes, so they strive for as little as possible. This means as much freedom as possible, as much free choice and capitalism as possible. Surely you can see the taxes wont ever decrease by much, government has too much control. What results in too much taxes is more government control to grow a larger government to give the government more control.
Check out my thread on What makes the USA so great, and my thread on Uncertain times and The history of socialism.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 11-16-2020).]
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2.5
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NOV 16, 05:21 PM
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williegoat
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NOV 16, 05:22 PM
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The top 5% (the filthy rich) are responsible for more than half of all federal income tax revenue, and I dare say much of the wages that the rest of us make. If we (the US government) confiscate more of their wealth, who do you think will get shorted?
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cvxjet
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NOV 16, 07:27 PM
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High end car manufacturers.....Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Rolls Royce, Bugatti, Bentley.....All have one thing in common besides high prices- They have filed numerous times for Bankruptcy protection...
Meanwhile, Ford has NEVER filed for bankruptcy....Henry Ford DOUBLED the pay for his line workers in 1914 and they then went out and bought Ford cars.........Company profits EXPLODED.....
Lesson? The "Rich are gods!!!" concept is just not completely true- investment is important, but number of sales is far more successful than "Lots 'O' profits per (Few) units sold"....Joe Public buying lots of cheap stuff is a better driver of the economy than the hyper rich "trickle down" concept...
But the new "Conservatives" whorship the hyper rich- at least their super "Hero"...born with a silver spoon........and who is a draft-dodger too, just like another phony hero of the (new) ultra-right; Marion Morrison
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