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2.5
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NOV 05, 11:33 AM
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Ever heard the term, Elective Despotism?
Are we headed there?
From the 3:44 min mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axi99mxHINM
couple of quotes
"We will only have freedom if people value it and defend it."
"Live free whether the government wants you to or not."
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Boondawg
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NOV 05, 12:50 PM
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These “socialism” videos are a lot like simulation videos; real people, fake everything else.
Anyone can imagine anything they want.
That don’t make it so.
The moniker “socialism” has become a catch-all for anything the user thinks he’s pretty sure he doesn’t believe in.
Until tested...
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NOV 05, 01:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
These “socialism” videos are a lot like simulation videos; real people, fake everything else.
Anyone can imagine anything they want.
That don’t make it so.
The moniker “socialism” has become a catch-all for anything the user thinks he’s pretty sure he doesn’t believe in.
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I'm unclear on your point.
Interesting alalysis, because socialism sounds appealing to some, until tested.
This thread presents how we humans got to socialism in the past. Origins and principles too. It also references some things going on today that head down that path. This thread is also about the opposite of socialism. A compare and contrast is left up to the reader / viewer. This maybe unlike today's "news" which tells you what to think.
The words do have meanings. Which points do you disagree with?[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 11-05-2020).]
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rinselberg
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NOV 06, 05:30 AM
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"The Socialism that Donald Trump likes"
Experience it in Internet Video Playback Mode in the comfort of your own home, office, or perhaps a car, truck or SUV (provided you're not driving.)
video playback link
This is MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell presenting a mashup of AOC, Michael Cohen, Lawrence O'Donnell himself, and a scene from the recent TV episodic drama series "The West Wing"
The part about Socialism starts just before 2 minutes into the 6+ minute complete presentation.
--> I have just taken the "liberty" of duplicating one of my Pennock's posts from some time ago now. It was in a topic that didn't waste any time in referencing the name of "Squad Stalwart" and Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Can you guess how that topic was set up or titled?
"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez"Spoiler Alert
Bet you didn't see that coming. (I did not start that thread. So I could not have given it that Topic name.)[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-06-2020).]
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NOV 06, 09:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
"The Socialism that Donald Trump likes"
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Any comments or rebuttals on the actual things going on that mirror how countries were led to socialism and murderous dictatorships in the past? Or just pointing "don't look here, look over there" AOC found Donald Trumps golf course?[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 11-06-2020).]
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2.5
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NOV 06, 10:33 AM
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hmmm it seems to not want me to share this, you can click the link below though:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...mequKMaWfq3VwKeTCfFD
If you like socialism, look farther and try and see through the emotionally fueled aspect.
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Bernie and AOC's plans lead to real socialism, which leads deeper then that.
(and no I don't seek slanted news, I say all news is slanted, I seek by topic and listen with skepticism)
[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 11-06-2020).]
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rinselberg
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NOV 07, 03:22 AM
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Yo', 2.5
I added up the duration of all of the videos that you posted here, all the way up until I came in.
Wherever you offered a suggestion, like "start at the 30 minute mark," I took that into account. So if that were a 60 minute video, I counted it as just 30 minutes.
It's a total of 4 hours and 30 minutes of video that you have put on display here.
Is there exactly one moment or one clearly separable "point" in each such video that you could single out as the best or most important thing about that video?
What (if you don't mind my asking) is the process that draws you to these particular videos?
It all looks very theoretical, for the most part. What do you see happening in your own life that makes you want to "sound" these alarms about Socialism?
Here's where I'm "coming from."
| quote | Existentialism is not a philosophy, but a mood embracing a number of disparate philosophies; the differences among them are more basic than the temper which unites them. This temper can be described as a reaction against the static, the abstract, the purely rational, the merely irrational, in favor of the dynamic and concrete, personal involvement and engagement, action, choice and commitment, the distinction between authentic and inauthentic existence, and the actual situation of the existential subject as the starting point of thought. Beyond this the so-called existentialists divide according to their views on such matters as phenomenological analysis, the existential subject, the intersubjective relation between selves, religion, and the implications of existentialism for psychotherapy ...
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~ Brent Dean Robbins, "Mythos & Logos" at http://mythosandlogos.com/
Of course, I'm only "there" when I manage to rise above my baseline or default condition, which closely resembles the mindless, stochastic perturbations of a dust mote, buffeted by even the most imperceptible of air currents.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-07-2020).]
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2.5
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NOV 07, 09:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Yo', 2.5
What (if you don't mind my asking) is the process that draws you to these particular videos?
It all looks very theoretical, for the most part. What do you see happening in your own life that makes you want to "sound" these alarms about Socialism?
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Seeing what is going on in this world. (See next paragraphs) Searching for ways to spread truth.
Whats happening in my own life is witnessing the world and what is happening, it no doubt sets off alarm bells and red flags.
Check out many of the videos I have shared in the past of Jordan Peterson's warnings of socialism, post modernism, and the destruction of western culture.
The acceptance of Bernie and AOC and other leftists. The indoctrination of kids that began in colleges and now happens even in elementary school. The embracing by our youth of tactics such as supressing free speech. Opportunistic political leaders whom never let a crisis go to waste. Antifa, BLMs marxist agenda, the tearing down of American history....an awful lot that is going on.
As they say those who will not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Check out my Whats so special about the USA thread too.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 11-07-2020).]
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rinselberg
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NOV 09, 04:24 AM
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That's not (literally) your own life, 2.5.
I wonder (if you don't mind, again) if you believe that--well, do you have children in school?--if so, do you think that your own children are being "brainwashed" or inundated with ideas and curricula that are antithetical to the America that you want to see?
It's not a question I could respond to, myself.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-09-2020).]
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