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quote Originally posted by Synthesis: No. The Mueller Report is not a viable source for data due to the fact that it is not fully released and . They tried to remove the President because the President broke the law. That doesn't mean they lack integrity. It means the President is a law breaker who abused his power and obstructed Congress, which is the equivalent of Obstruction of Justice. Additionally, Biden did not force Viktor Shokin out, Biden asked the Ukrainian parliament to do so because Viktor wasn't pursuing corruption among Ukrainian politicians, as expressly stated by a Ukrainian government official as well as four American government officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe. The tape you mention has been widely discredited by multiple intelligence community sources as heavily edited, and was made public by a Ukrainian official who has since been uncovered as an active Russian agent who has and had a history of spreading misinformation online.

Didn't think you'd accept any of it. I suspect you drank way too much Kool Aid.
As I've said, it's all about perspective. I don't wear rose colored glasses. What some people don't understand (about me) is, I don't like DJT. But, I know what to expect of him. I also don't care for Biden and Harris (admittedly mostly Harris, Biden can't remember who or what he's doing most of the time) but both want to take us further into Socialism. Don't believe that, look at their past. Let's not forget about Speaker Pelosi and the ACA and how the House members would have to vote for it to read it. Yeah, that's the way to govern.

Be safe out there.

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quote Originally posted by Synthesis: You use the term Socialism like it's a bad thing. Our US Military is 100% Socialism. People don't realize this, but it is true. Everything. Projection much? I have not drank any proverbial Kool Aid. I get it. You are Republican and support Trump, maybe not because you like him, but because he is a known quantity to you. But you are supporting a traitor who is beholden to a foreign nation, a liar, a racist, a misogynist. I will state it again emphatically: You can not support one piece of Trump's stance without endorsing all of it. You may not like his racism, but by voting for him you are telling him it is OK to continue being racist and tooting his giant-ass dog whistle. Right now, the Republican party is refusing to bring legislation to a vote in the senate for a stimulus that will save 8 million plus Americans from being evicted due to job loss from the failure of the economy due to the Trump/Republican response to Covid. Instead, they are breaking the rules that they set in order to end run around the Democratic senators in order to force an unqualified person onto the Supreme Court. They'd rather vote on that, than help people who are hurting right now and can't get groceries, pay rent/mortgage, etc. This is the party of family values that you profess to be a part of, yet they won't support the families that make America what it is. For what it's worth, I agree with you. Biden is not a "good" choice, but he's not senile, as you seem to think he is. Put down that Kool Aid you mentioned earlier. And the ACA and voting before it can be read? Yeah, that was shitty, but the ACA literally saved a friend's life when she lost her job and insurance. If you actually paid attention, you'd remember that the Republicans are guilty of the same exact thing with the AHCA.

Sir,
I'm a registered Democrat and have been for a long time.

Reference that stimulus, I believe there are two sides to that story. The Republicans have made an offer, the Democrats rejected it, the Dems want money that the Republicans don't want to spend.

Reference Barrett, not one Senator or anyone else has even tried to suggest she doesn't have the qualifications. She isn't qualified because of who nominated her.
Reference your friend, I'll have to take your word on that but, the ACA is another socialist program. We've got way too many give aways for folks that don't pull their own weight.

But, let's face it, we're never gonna agree on this. You have your perspective and I have mine. I'll admit to being anti-socialist. The Dems continue to buy votes with socialist programs for those who won't and don't pull their own weight.
Socialism has failed in every nation it's been tried in but, it is a way to get those folks I spoke about before to vote for them. Free stuff always buys votes for those unwilling to earn things on their own.

As I said, be safe and remember to vote Nov. 4th.
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