NFL Football : The Washington Red Faced Is The Redskins New Name. (Page 2/6) cliffw JUL 04, 12:52 PM quote Originally posted by Threedog: It is not that native american groups never considered it to be racist, it is that if they spoke out about in the past they were shot down so it was pointless. It is not that "all of a sudden" they are racist/offensive to groups of people, it is that they have always been offensive but now large sections of the majority (white) are sympathetic to them so they can actually do something about it. I am not sure who is smarter ? You or Boondawg. Poll of Native Americans’ view of Redskins name finds “proud” most common answer quote A new survey has found that Native Americans are more likely to be proud than offended by the name of the Washington Redskins. quote These results echo those of a 2016 poll that found that only 9 percent of Native Americans described themselves as offended by the Redskins name, while 90 percent said it did not bother them. Of course y'all will believe what you think, even though NBC says otherwise. What should I do when they play the Black National Anthem ? Put my hand over my heart ? "Black fist" my hand and hold it over my head ? Maybe I should kneel. cliffw JUL 04, 12:56 PM quote Originally posted by Wichita: Chiefs and Indians are next. Yeah, . Soon they will be extinct. 82-T/A [At Work] JUL 04, 01:02 PM quote Originally posted by Threedog: I think this an important point because it demonstrates the disconnect in communication between both sides of the issue. It is not that native american groups never considered it to be racist, it is that if they spoke out about in the past they were shot down so it was pointless. It is not that "all of a sudden" they are racist/offensive to groups of people, it is that they have always been offensive but now large sections of the majority (white) are sympathetic to them so they can actually do something about it. Personally, I think it's obvious the name "Redskins" is not the best connotation of a nod of the hat to Native Americans. But teams like the Chiefs, Indians, etc... and even the Washington Redskins, have majority support (and in some cases overwhelming support) of Native American tribes. Where I have a problem with it is with progressive liberals with white guilt telling the rest of the world how things should be. They act without thought and base entirely every decision on their emotions. If Native American tribes like the homage that Florida State University / Seminoles, Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves, and Kansas City Chiefs give, then who are these white liberals to tell everyone we need to change it? "A new survey has found that Native Americans are more likely to be proud than offended by the name of the Washington Redskins." https://profootballtalk.nbc...-most-common-answer/ - In taking the action, the NCAA deemed FSU's use of the Seminole name and symbols as "hostile or abusive." https://www.fsu.edu/news/2005/08/05/tk.response/ "On June 17, the Tribal Council of the Seminole Tribe of Florida spoke unequivocally of its support for Florida State University in its use of the Seminole name and related symbols. Accordingly, I intend to pursue all legal avenues to ensure that this unacceptable decision is overturned, and that this university will forever be associated with the "unconquered" spirit of the Seminole Tribe of Florida. " - "New poll finds 9 in 10 Native Americans aren’t offended by Redskins name" https://www.washingtonpost....753295f9a_story.html Rickady88GT JUL 04, 01:05 PM quote Originally posted by cliffw: What should I do when they play the Black National Anthem ? Put my hand over my heart ? "Black fist" my hand and hold it over my head ? Maybe I should kneel. I would guess that the nfl would have some type of policy to protect the anthem from unprofessionalism or disrespect. So those that do not support it would stay in the locker room till it is done and then the real National Anthem will play as the players exchange positions in the locker room. Segregation starting all over again. Imagine the disrespect the public will give a segregation anthem. williegoat JUL 04, 01:16 PM Statues, team names, flags, the issues are debatable. They might have merit. However, now is not the time to make these changes. What we have done is shown that if a pack of spoiled brats throw a temper tantrum, we will give them anything they want, just to get them to shut up. "If I give you a few blocks of downtown, will you please stop whining?" williegoat JUL 04, 01:18 PM The Black National Anthem? When I was young, that was called segregation. People who wanted such things were called bigots. 82-T/A [At Work] JUL 04, 01:37 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: My daughter did that when she was really little... and then got pissed and blamed "the stupid builder." Hahah... cliffw JUL 04, 01:58 PM Boondawg JUL 04, 02:09 PM quote Originally posted by cliffw: What should I do when they play the Black National Anthem ? Put my hand over my heart ? "Black fist" my hand and hold it over my head ? Maybe I should kneel. Rickady88GT JUL 04, 02:56 PM The progression of racism works kinda like this. "We want to be treated as equal" "We want more representation of our color" "We want advertisers to represent us" "We want more of our color owning teams" "We want more of our color is administrative positions" "We want more of our color as coaches" "We want more of our color in staffing positions" "We want more of our color as team members" "We DEMAND less of (insert race of your choice) in the sport" Racism is racism regardless of the racists color or the victims race. We ABSOLUTELY are equal and to be a racist is despicable, we should be treated as equals and to discriminate based on color is neanderthal. Emotional expressions and outbursts of hate and rage should not be accepted as normal because one day that acceptable and normal expression will target YOU, then what?