Panera Tried Socialism, It Failed (Page 2/16)
williegoat FEB 15, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Threedog:

Anyone brainwashed by anecdotal evidence of America's success should think otherwise.

Looking at happiness, life expectancy, HDI, freedom of the press, education, corruption levels...basically ANY measurable facts about life in nordic countries compared to America it is objectively a better society. And its not just oil rich Norway, Finland is easily included there as well.


So, that's why so many disenfranchised Americans are fleeing the oppression and poverty of this evil empire and moving to the Utopia of Norway. Have I been unbrainwashed now?
By the way, why do you live in this hell hole?
2.5 FEB 15, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Threedog:

Anyone brainwashed by anecdotal evidence of America's success should think otherwise.

Looking at happiness, life expectancy, HDI, freedom of the press, education, corruption levels...basically ANY measurable facts about life in nordic countries compared to America it is objectively a better society. And its not just oil rich Norway, Finland is easily included there as well.



There are many things I have thought otherwise on, back and forth, look andf think, and after careful examination came back to a proper conclusion.

You are wrong.
But then who judges happiness? If youd personally be happier there, just be my guest, go live there.

Did you do my earlier recommended comparisons? Do you see any issues with trying to implement the governing style of Norway in the US?

Lambo nut FEB 15, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Threedog:



You actually have no idea that you have a serious fu€king mental problem do you?
Blacktree FEB 15, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Threedog: Man, you guys really have no idea what socialism is.


I guess Nordic people don't, either. Because they say their governments aren't socialist.

https://fee.org/articles/th...ndinavian-socialism/

And to be fair, the thread title is incorrect. Panera technically tried communism. My apologies.

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williegoat FEB 15, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by Threedog:

Anyone brainwashed by anecdotal evidence of America's success should think otherwise.



I have lived in America for over 64 years and thus have been surrounded by evidence of America's success. That preponderance of evidence goes far beyond "anecdotal". The suggestion that the lessons I have learned from the total of my life's experience can be considered "brainwashing" is more than absurd, it is absolutely ludicrous; and considering your relatively shallow life experience demonstrated by your repeated failure to discern the truth from an abundance of available information, I find your assessment insulting.

Just what is the "otherwise" that those like me should think?

And before you start talking "privilege", you have no idea how hard I have worked and the obstacles I have overcome to get to where I am. So, don't even try that crap.
randye FEB 15, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by Threedog:

Man, you guys really have no idea what socialism is.

I assume the systems that the Nordic countries have are not socialist because they work?





It seems as though every time the topic of Marxist socialism pops up there is always at least one clueless, chucklehead, leftist with the ideological IQ of a tree stump like you that pipes up with the old fairy tale about how "Scandinavian countries are like, uh, socialist, so like, uh, it shows that socialism works dude".

They aren't, and it doesn't

Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland and Finland ALL have very robust FREE MARKET CAPITALIST economies.

They can afford the generous social programs they have because they have those strong capitalist economies.


https://fee.org/articles/th...ndinavian-socialism/


http://thefederalist.com/20...-socialist-paradise/


https://www.nationalreview....exposing-lefts-myth/


https://www.thenewamerican....ccess-in-scandinavia


https://nypost.com/2015/01/...tries-arent-utopias/


http://forums.canadianconte...wthread.php?t=155776


https://www.washingtonpost....m_term=.df4e5e0d1245


https://reason.com/reasontv...-a-socialist-success


https://www.huffingtonpost....alist_b_9011652.html


"Treepup" you're a poorly educated young man with some very confused and wrong ideas about the reality of the world around you, especially where it comes to economics and political ideologies.

Like most youngsters, you're also so self-convinced that you know more than anyone else that you can't resist trying to lecture the adults in the room who by and large are far better educated and more experienced than you.

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randye FEB 15, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Threedog:

Anyone brainwashed by anecdotal evidence of America's success should think otherwise.

Looking at happiness, life expectancy, HDI, freedom of the press, education, corruption levels...basically ANY measurable facts about life in nordic countries compared to America it is objectively a better society. And its not just oil rich Norway, Finland is easily included there as well.





President Reagan never met one of our modern crop of hopelessly indoctrinated young Marxist leftists like this one, otherwise I'm convinced he would have revised the "not that they're ignorant" part of his statement.

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2.5 FEB 19, 02:05 PM
I hope there is a response to these replies before there are more posts saying the same thing you said here Threedog, as if these replies never happened.
Threedog FEB 19, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by randye:
It seems as though every time the topic of Marxist socialism pops up there is always at least one clueless, chucklehead, leftist with the ideological IQ of a tree stump like you that pipes up with the old fairy tale about how "Scandinavian countries are like, uh, socialist, so like, uh, it shows that socialism works dude".

They aren't, and it doesn't

Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland and Finland ALL have very robust FREE MARKET CAPITALIST economies.

They can afford the generous social programs they have because they have those strong capitalist economies.


https://fee.org/articles/th...ndinavian-socialism/


http://thefederalist.com/20...-socialist-paradise/


https://www.nationalreview....exposing-lefts-myth/


https://www.thenewamerican....ccess-in-scandinavia


https://nypost.com/2015/01/...tries-arent-utopias/


http://forums.canadianconte...wthread.php?t=155776


https://www.washingtonpost....m_term=.df4e5e0d1245


https://reason.com/reasontv...-a-socialist-success


https://www.huffingtonpost....alist_b_9011652.html


"Treepup" you're a poorly educated young man with some very confused and wrong ideas about the reality of the world around you, especially where it comes to economics and political ideologies.

Like most youngsters, you're also so self-convinced that you know more than anyone else that you can't resist trying to lecture the adults in the room who by and large are far better educated and more experienced than you.



So if this is true, if they are not truly socialist. Why do we not implement those same polices?

Also, for everyone trying to use anecdotal evidence to say why America is happier, the facts disagree with you.

Happiness Index

Freedom of the Press

HDI
The facts back me up.
williegoat FEB 19, 02:45 PM
I am happy. You are not.
Conservatives are generally pretty happy people, they make their own happiness. Leftists seem to always find something that makes them unhappy.
If all of the leftists moved to socialist countries, the USA would certainly be the happiest place on earth.