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rinselberg OCT 15, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Let me describe the statement since you don't remember what he posted. He's a proud Trump voter. Nothing wrong with that. Surely you've heard BLM and Antifa say that all Trump supporters are racist, White supremacists that need to be punched in the face? They have a saying of, Punch a NAZI in the face. It's everywhere outside his rallies. They cuss children walking in too. Incidents such as Nick Sandmann getting verbally abused and then all of media inciting violence against a 17 year old who was being aggressed against is the norm. All Trump supporters to them, without exception, are evil. Media supports that.

Well, willie (he has called himself willie on this forum) posted a comment about some Trumpers being just what BLM and Antifa call all Trumpers.

I pointed out what is obvious to anyone; that as a Trump supporter he is exactly the person that BLM and Antifa say to punch in the face.

It's aid and comfort to the enemy. It's repeating the radical left's insanity.


So williegoat did not say, flat out, without any further qualification or narrowing of it, that "Trump supporters are White supremacists."

He was talking about some Trump supporters or "Trumpers", as sourmash has put it.

It's what I thought was the case.

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williegoat OCT 15, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

So williegoat did not say, flat out, without any further qualification or narrowing of it, that "Trump supporters are White supremacists."

He was talking about some Trump supporters or "Trumpers", as sourmash has put it.

It's what I thought was the case.



No. He cannot post a link, because those are not my words.

This is starting to sound just like this thread from a few years ago: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...ML/120640-3.html#p91
sourmash OCT 15, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

So williegoat did not say, flat out, without any further qualification or narrowing of it, that "Trump supporters are White supremacists."

He was talking about some Trump supporters or "Trumpers", as sourmash has put it.

It's what I thought was the case.




Did you see the quote? No. You read a synopsis. It's as I thought, and as you do on many of your posts. Deflect.

willie knows he said it. He knows he calls people names in an attempt to belittle people. He knows he asserted that he doesn't and then acknowledged that he does. He then said it's the same as using MEM as an abbreviation. That confirms an ethical position. willie isnt all that honest. wllie agreed with BLM and Antifa.

Why does that trouble you? Why can't he just be who he is instead of who you want him to be?

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sourmash OCT 15, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


I just used the QUOTE function to post your words.

You could do the same thing to prove your assertation as to williegoat's comments.



He was quoted when he posted it. You aren't involved and weren't interested, obviously. The issue was already resolved.

The only thing that matters is that he knows I called him on it. It's why he quit posting about politics for months.
williegoat OCT 15, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

It's why he quit posting about politics for months.


Yeah, I'm sure everyone believes that. I am a political junkie, it's a weakness. Now tell everyone I admitted to being a weak junkie.
sourmash OCT 15, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Yeah, I'm sure everyone believes that. I am a political junkie, it's a weakness. Now tell everyone I admitted to being a weak junkie.



Since when do I care about everyone? You're group think, and I'm not. It's only important that you know that I know.

I'm perfectly content with you being who you are. Don't fret over what I see and remember. You do you.
olejoedad OCT 15, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:


He was quoted when he posted it. You aren't involved and weren't interested, obviously. The issue was already resolved.

The only thing that matters is that he knows I called him on it. It's why he quit posting about politics for months.



Speaking of asinine BS...
sourmash OCT 15, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


Speaking of asinine BS...



Yes, your posts are all slanted toward that commodity.
Why would you be butt hurt about this? Hiw does it concern you? You're peculiar. Is it narcissism?
rinselberg OCT 15, 01:08 PM
I want to take this from the particular and the concrete, to the theoretical and the abstract.

Harry tells me that Brandon said "Trump supporters are White supremacists."

If that is all the information that I have about what Brandon said, then I am in something of a quandary.

Was Brandon trying to assert that "All Trump supporters are White supremacists," or that "Trump supporters are always White supremacists?"

Or was Brandon describing a particular situation where he (Brandon) perceived that there were Trump supporters on hand that were (and possibly and even very likely still are) White supremacists--? In which case it would be technically accurate for Harry to tell me that Brandon said "Trump supporters are White supremacists." But it would also be very misleading on Harry's part, and very disingenuous of Harry, for Harry to tell me that Brandon said "Trump supporters are White supremacists."

How seemingly paradoxical . . . why is that?

It's the temporal ambiguity. Harry is telling me that Brandon said "Trump supporters are White supremacists." But is that what Brandon would have said, in the moment when he was observing the aforementioned "particular situation"--? Is that what Brandon would say right now, at this moment? Or would Brandon say to me, right now--if Brandon were going to speak to me about this--that he (Brandon) had observed a (particular) situation where "Trump supporters were White supremacists." In which case, Brandon could equally well say "Some Trump supporters are White supremacists. I know this, because I saw such a situation with my very own eyes--about a year ago."

It's like the difference between a broad brush--nay, a paint roller--or nay, nay, a paint sprayer--and a detailing brush or even a touchup applicator.

Makes all the difference in the world.

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2.5 OCT 15, 01:09 PM
Anyway, about the thread topic



Anyone disagree with his take?