quote Originally posted by Threedog: I would point to universal healthcare that has not tanked the economies of European countries or Japan or Korea or Canada. Click to show I would point to taxation polices that work in Scandinavian and European countries that have not turned them into third world hell holes. Click to show I would point to the utter lack of exodus of the super rich from countries that have progressive, strict taxation polices that heavily tax the rich.Click to show I would point(as I have in this thread) to the increased social mobility in these economies, where poor people actually have a fair shot at getting rich. Click to show I would point to many states in this country that have passed many liberal/leftist laws with large social safety nets and have seen increased social mobility and stronger economies. Click to show We like to think that America's super-capitalistic attitude is what allowed America to thrive during the second half of the twentieth centuries. However we forget that just about every other country that could rival us economically had been invaded, split, or bombed to complete and utter ruins. It is really easy to be on top when your infrastructure is intact and others have been decimated. Once countries began to rebuild their infrastructure/politically stabilize, they caught up quick. [/hide]

Finland's government is crumbling as we speak.

Venezuela is in the stone ages as we speak.

Hard work and fortitude built the United States of America.

Could you answer my previous question please?

quote Originally posted by Tony Kania: What do you do that we can follow to make life the idea that you have?

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