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ray b JAN 24, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:

Is it true up to 10,000 National Guard were offered to be there? Even the Capital Police asked for the National Guard to be there or to be on standby, but someone, Pelosi? Said NO?



I have heard that said

BUT chain of command ?
president rump is commander in chief not speaker of the house
she maybe could say no FUNDING or what
but how does she block troop movements what is the procedures to do that in real time ?

the rump was in charge at that time and place
and was CiC every executive branch agent troop or officer not nancy
if she did has any S of the H done that before ? under what power ect ?
RandomTask JAN 24, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by randye:



As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code 115 § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TREASON ( 18 U.S. Code 115 § 2381) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH MISPRISION OF TREASON ( 18 U.S. Code 115 § 2382) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code 115 § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 650 individuals], (0.05 %) out of the >120,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime

As of today only 36 individuals, (<0.03 %) out of the >120,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 11 individuals, (0.009 %) out of the >120,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "seditious conspiracy".

As of today only 11 individuals, (1.6 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "seditious conspiracy".

As of today only 36 individuals, (5.5 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.6 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 165 individuals, (25 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.

As of today only 165 individuals, (0.13 %) out of the >120,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 18 individuals, (0.01 %) out of the >120,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.01 %) out of the >120,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.




Some things:
1.) I noticed the "Sedition" line is oddly absent from this copy and paste. Wonder why? :rofl:
2.) Where are you getting "120k" crowd size? Citation please.


2.5 JAN 24, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


I have heard that said

BUT chain of command ?
president rump is commander in chief not speaker of the house
she maybe could say no FUNDING or what
but how does she block troop movements what is the procedures to do that in real time ?

the rump was in charge at that time and place
and was CiC every executive branch agent troop or officer not nancy
if she did has any S of the H done that before ? under what power ect ?




What I heard was Trump was the one that offered.
ray b JAN 24, 05:48 PM
I could understand ban troops from inside the house chamber or even the capital building
but troop movement in the city how is that the biz of the speaker ?

basic chart of who does what in government said trumps job C IN C over troops not nancy
randye JAN 24, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by RandomTask:


Some things:
1.) I noticed the "Sedition" line is oddly absent from this copy and paste. Wonder why? :rofl:
2.) Where are you getting "120k" crowd size? Citation please.




I know you think this is your big GOTCHA! moment...

It isn't.

Here are "Some things" for you:

1.) You would have benefitted from heeding 2.5's post:


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Originally posted by 2.5:

This may lead people to think that you reply without reading the thread. That you reply to posts you don't even read.




True to your username, it's obvious that you only read random parts of the thread.

Since you clearly can't be bothered with reading what has transpired, let's try to point it out for you:




2.) You would have benefitted from heeding 2.5's post:


quote
Originally posted by 2.5:

This may lead people to think that you reply without reading the thread. That you reply to posts you don't even read.




True to your username, it's obvious that you only read random parts of the thread.

Since you clearly can't be bothered with reading what has transpired, here's some remedial reading for you:


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Originally posted by randye:



https://www.cnbc.com/2022/0...acy-reports-say.html

The Leftist propagandists are giddy over this "blockbuster" news,
but lets put it into proper perspective:

The United States population in 2021 = 333,000,000

Only 11 people arrested and charged with "seditious conspiracy" out of a population of 333,000,000 = 0.000003%

36% of US population claim to be conservative or what Leftists love to call "Far Right Wing"
(Sorry Lefties, there's still more than 11% fewer of you than conservatives.)
https://news.gallup.com/pol...eld-steady-2020.aspx

36% of a 333.000,000 U.S. population = 119,880,000 conservatives.

Only 11 people out of 119,880,000 conservatives is 0.000009%


Former President Trump received a reported 74,000,000 votes in 2020

Only 11 people out of 74,000,000 Trump voters is 0.00001%

Only 11 people out of a MOSTLY PEACEFUL “Stop The Steal” rally crowd of 120,000 is 0.009%

Wikipedia (even as stilted as it’s contributions are), says: “On January 6, 2021, a mob of 2,000 to 2,500 supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump attacked the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...tates_Capitol_attack

Using Wiki’s high number of 2.500 means that only 2.0% of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL rally crowd of 120,000 participated in the riot

Using Wiki’s low number of 2,000 that means that only 11 people, or only 0.5% (ONE HALF OF A PERCENT) of the rioters have been charged with “seditious conspiracy”.

....

For a little more perspective, the size of the Demorat / Confederate Army of Sedition in the civil war they started was 1,082,119

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...federate_States_Army

THAT’S >108,000 X LARGER THAN THE NUMBER OF JANUARY 6, 2021 RIOTERS CHARGED WITH “SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY”

.....................


NOTE: The size of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 "Stop The Steal " rally crowd has been increased (again), from 60,000 up to 120,000 based upon the following information:

“Six times as many protestors—as many as 120,000—would show up on the Mall on January 6, according to classified numbers still not released by the Secret Service and the FBI but seen by Newsweek.”

https://www.newsweek.com/ex...6-protestors-1661296

*The regular "Breaking News" will of course be updated accordingly. *


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randye JAN 24, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I've heard of hyperventilating until you're blue in the face, but that takes it to a new level?

Hyperventilating until you're blue in the text?

Whatever that was. The two last messages that preceded this one. If anyone thinks I'm going to linger over either of those messages long enough to read them attentively, think again. There are some who have no interest in civil (as in civilized) online discourse, and I have no interest in anyone who has no interest in civil discourse.

Even if the two last messages that preceded this one were relatively civil(ized), judged against the history of that forum member account, there's a point of No Return, and that was exceeded some years and literally thousands of messages ago.

If there is a relative civility in the last two messages before this one--not the Breaking News message, really, but the one before that--it's a relative civility that's emerged only under the duress of a recently more active and proactive forum moderator.

I'm pleased to remain unaware of any of the details of that message. I did "parse" the very last paragraph of it. That had the word "stupid" or some derivate of "stupid", if memory serves me. It's language like that that make me so disinclined as to my not even wanting to read any of the remainder of that message--whatever it was that preceded that last sentence or paragraph.

"Tell me about it."




NOWHERE in any of that word salad was there ANYTHING dealing with the topic at hand.

It was ONLY and clearly just another personal attack from you.

WE also see that you are back to pretending that the forum rules apply to everyone EXCEPT YOU, and it is notable that the "recently more active and proactive forum moderator", as you called him, is the one that PUT YOU ON A 2 DAY PROBATION for doing almost exactly what you are now doing again

[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-24-2022).]