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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 05, 08:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
I tried to mention this to tshark, a couple of days ago (during that other COVID Vax thread) but he didn't want to hear it, and essentially kept telling me I was full of sh!t.
My wife has a masters in medicinal/biological chemistry. We speak about this crap, frequently. She understands enough about how the vaccine works that she is comfortable with it. As am I. (In layman's terms, it has to do with the spikes. ALL COVID viruses have those spikes. Please don't ask me to go deeper into an explanation, because I really don't remember all the details.)
With all of that said... personally, I don't give a flying fsck if anyone else gets the vax. I really don't. (Although I think it would go away more quickly if people did. But still... their choice.)
What I do have a problem with is some people taking pleasure that people are getting sick.
Topic: HahaHaha! CDC: 3/4 of those with Covid19 have had "vax".
Seriously? Tells me all I need to know about... someone's character.
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I understand what you're saying about the topic thread... but it's probably a stretch to assume he is laughing about people dying, rather... the title is probably meant to be a "hahah (I told you so)" kind of thing. I personally don't think Sourmash communicates well, but I don't think he actually thinks people dying is funny.
As for the vaccine... for me, I figure the risk is worth the reward... e.g. if it helps stop the spread, then good. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case, as I literally just got COVID again after having been vaccinated. I'm doing much better, just a little tickle in my chest, and I'm a bit fatigued, but otherwise I should be totally back to normal by Saturday. Anyway... point I'm making though, for my daughter, the odds just don't line up for me. Based on everything I've seen, she's literally at a greater risk of dying or having a serious condition from the vaccine, than she does of dying from COVID. Granted... the odds are insanely small... but as I told my daughter... I do not have any backup kids... she's it, so she needs to not do stupid stuff. So I'm taking the lower risk.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 05, 08:45 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
666 . . . I had not even noticed that.
That's where Dr Fauci comes in. At 666 seconds after the beginning of the YouTube segment. Or 11 minutes and 6 seconds.
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Haha... there are so many jokes I can make here. I was almost certain you had planned that as a joke.
Are you telling me that by random chance, the timestamp for Dr. Fauci coming onto screen happened to be 666? I literally just watched the original Poltergeist last weekend. If I'm buying something at the grocery store and the lady tells me the total is 6 dollars and 66 cents, I'll make the sign of the cross like a good Catholic and throw in a pack of gum to change the amount, hahaha...
By the way, what happened to your ratings bar? I was gone for a couple of months and it's like almost all red?
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rinselberg
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AUG 05, 09:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Haha... there are so many jokes I can make here. I was almost certain you had planned that as a joke.
Are you telling me that by random chance, the timestamp for Dr. Fauci coming onto screen happened to be 666? I literally just watched the original Poltergeist last weekend. If I'm buying something at the grocery store and the lady tells me the total is 6 dollars and 66 cents, I'll make the sign of the cross like a good Catholic and throw in a pack of gum to change the amount, hahaha...
By the way, what happened to your ratings bar? I was gone for a couple of months and it's like almost all red? |
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I did not enter, as input, the number 666. I think you know how YouTube is set up. The functions are "Copy video URL" to link to a YouTube video and start from its beginning, and "Copy video URL at current time" to link to a YouTube video and start it, not from its beginning, but from wherever you want it to start, after its beginning. I stopped the video at the moment before the briefing was handed over to Dr Fauci and executed the "Copy video URL at current time" function to create the link that I used. I did not take any notice of where that moment came, in terms of seconds elapsed from the beginning of the video.
My ratings bar? I'm not into the ratings bar "thing." Never have been. Especially not here, in the Totally O/T section of the forum. I wonder how many individual rating function inputs were entered to change it from where it was, rather recently, to this very recent, bright red-dominated look. I wonder if the rating function inputs came more from lurkers or from active "voices." I wonder . . . but not to any great length (of wondering.)[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-05-2021).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 05, 09:40 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
... I stopped the video at the moment before the briefing was handed over to Dr Fauci and executed the "Copy video URL at current time" function to create the link that I used. I did not take any notice of where that moment came, in terms of seconds elapsed from the beginning of the video.
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I KNOW!!! That's what's so crazy! Hahaha...
"I stopped the video at the moment before the briefing was handed over to Dr Fauci..."
... or, the devil!!!
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sourmash
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AUG 05, 09:48 PM
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The boosters might never come to an end.
This all "experimental."
But Fauci gave his word about how effective these initial ones are.
The fraud might only be getting started.
Knowing what we're seeing, why have any faith in a booster?[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 08-05-2021).]
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AUG 05, 09:56 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I KNOW!!! That's what's so crazy! Hahaha...
"I stopped the video at the moment before the briefing was handed over to Dr Fauci..."
... or, the devil!!!
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I find it somewhere between amusing and ominous, that Fauci sounds so much like Faust. I have drawn the parallel here a few times, but no one has connected the dots.
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Raydar
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AUG 05, 09:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I understand what you're saying about the topic thread... but it's probably a stretch to assume he is laughing about people dying, rather... the title is probably meant to be a "hahah (I told you so)" kind of thing. I personally don't think Sourmash communicates well, but I don't think he actually thinks people dying is funny.
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That's okay. You can think whatever you wish, or believe.
Just looks like a hateful, snide comment, to me. I don't think he much cares, or not. I think being "right" is more important.
But people will be who they are. I really don't care. Just some guy on the internet...
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As for the vaccine... for me, I figure the risk is worth the reward... e.g. if it helps stop the spread, then good. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case, as I literally just got COVID again after having been vaccinated. I'm doing much better, just a little tickle in my chest, and I'm a bit fatigued, but otherwise I should be totally back to normal by Saturday. Anyway... point I'm making though, for my daughter, the odds just don't line up for me. Based on everything I've seen, she's literally at a greater risk of dying or having a serious condition from the vaccine, than she does of dying from COVID. Granted... the odds are insanely small... but as I told my daughter... I do not have any backup kids... she's it, so she needs to not do stupid stuff. So I'm taking the lower risk.
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That's the deal with the vaccine. Supposedly, people who are vaccinated, and catch the virus again, fare much better than those who were never vaccinated. But you've probably already heard all that. I don't care to re-hash it. If someone doesn't believe that... so be it. I just don't care. I hope you are doing well, behind it.
I wish you and your daughter well. I certainly wouldn't presume to say that you should behave in any way, other than what you believe to be correct for your own family. You gotta do what you gotta do. And eff everyone else. DO take care.
Edit - My comment to you STILL sounds kind of harsh. Certainly not my intent. You guys take care. Be well.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 08-05-2021).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 06, 11:13 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
Edit - My comment to you STILL sounds kind of harsh. Certainly not my intent. You guys take care. Be well.
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Hahah, that's ok. I'm a big boy... and I didn't take it as such. You should see how my friends of over 20+ years talk to each other when it comes to politics. I have some friends that are so left, they strongly, strongly believe that Communism is where we need to be.. that this is the greatest concept since the invention of the internet. On the flip side, I have friends who are so far right that they still believe in creationism (instead of the idea that God simply created the math and science that leads to evolution). Our e-mail chains are something to behold... and a lot of profanity. But when we all get together for beers and a BBQ, it's all laughing and good times.
| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
That's the deal with the vaccine. Supposedly, people who are vaccinated, and catch the virus again, fare much better than those who were never vaccinated. But you've probably already heard all that. I don't care to re-hash it. If someone doesn't believe that... so be it. I just don't care. I hope you are doing well, behind it.
I wish you and your daughter well. I certainly wouldn't presume to say that you should behave in any way, other than what you believe to be correct for your own family. You gotta do what you gotta do. And eff everyone else. DO take care.
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I was cleared to go back to work today, but it's Friday, and I still have a lingering cough. Plus... my legs are really sore because I was putting down wood flooring while I was sick because I didn't want to sit in bed. But I'm good. My daughter is the most important thing to me though, and I'm just not willing to take unnecessary risks with her because a politician is pushing it. I worked in the medical industry for over a decade, and I know how Big Pharma works. I think Big Pharma is a critical part of the US medical industry, and I'm a big fan of allowing them to keep their profits so they invest in more research and development of new life-saving drugs; however, I also know how they push drugs through the PCPs that patients don't actually really need. Kids really don't need the vaccine, they're able to overcome this no problem... the risk isn't there. If adults don't want to get vaccinated, that's their problem. There's certainly enough of the vaccine to go around, and it's "free" (paid for by taxpayer).
| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
That's okay. You can think whatever you wish, or believe.
Just looks like a hateful, snide comment, to me. I don't think he much cares, or not. I think being "right" is more important.
But people will be who they are. I really don't care. Just some guy on the internet...
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Again, I totally understand where you're going with this. But he's really bad at communicating, we've all pretty much established that. I think "being right" is something that's very subjective... let's look at this from a global political phenomenon.
Here in the United States, I'd say the "majority" of people in the United States want the president (of the opposition party) to "fail." So let's unwrap that...
It's gotten progressively worse where as a society we move from a localized community to a national community (e.g. no one watches local television or local news anymore, everyone watches national news, so people stop caring about community and only see the forest and not the trees). We'll start with Obama, though he was definitely not the first to experience this... Bush did too.
Most Republicans wanted Obama to fail.
I wanted Obama to fail, but to be clear, I wanted Obama to FAIL at pushing socialism and socialist policies. But that said, there were MANY people who would have wanted to see economic collapse SO THAT Obama would fail, ignoring whatever the result of failure meant to millions of people.
Then Trump... I think it's safe to say that MOST Democrats wanted Trump to fail. From my perspective, I think there was a very small minority of Democrats who didn't want to see him outright dead. Most Democrats... if I'm to believe the theatrics, tears, and everything else I saw on the news every day, that most people wanted Trump dead, and that they would happily accept an economic collapse or catastrophe if it meant it would hurt Trump. Lucky for those people, they got exactly that... a pandemic which wreaked havoc on the economy and ultimately led to Trump losing the election (whether fair or not).
Does that mean that all of these people, Republican or Democrat, are hateful and poor excuses for human beings? I don't think so... but the human mind has a really unique ability to detach itself from the reality of a situation when it can justify to itself a greater good.
Sourmash is not unlike... quite honestly, the majority of Americans that we see day in and day out on both the Republican and Democrat side every day. The question you'll want to ask yourself (and this is me trying to be Mr Rogers about it)... do you think Sourmash would willingly push the button to end the life of all those people, personally, just so that he could proof that <insert whatever Democrat medical policy here> failed? I definitely do not think he would... nor do I think the overwhelming vast majority of people in the United States would do anything similar to prove their "side" was right.
I'm a big fan of communication. As human beings, we're very emotional, and just like "fight or flight" for the weak minded during a cruise ship buffet... they look at everyone from the perspective of ally or foe. Is this person going to HELP me get that bacon, or is this person going to take the bacon and get it before I can? There's never an in-between, and that "in between" is where we operate at a functionally higher level.
That was long, and a ramble... but like I said, I'm at home and not at work, so just goofing off on Pennocks... hahah... sorry.
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sourmash
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AUG 06, 01:05 PM
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I can be cryptic when writing. People really aren't interested. They just want a reason to troll someone else.
You're terrible at communication on the perception side. You don't struggle with conveying thoughts. Like most Hispanics you have a lot to say and aren't going to listen if someone engages you until you respond to what you thought someone else was saying. The problem is you respond to things never said. But you add projection to the discussion anyway to absolve yourself of blame. I like the band RUSH! And it's Freewill song lyric time: "Blame is better to give than receive."
Most politically affiliated people only want their side to win. I want both sides to fail, but it's because they both are the same globalist shill hydra.
I could only wish most people in America were like me. The Republican establishment tells the flock that it's the Dems who are the problem. That's way wrong. The Republican Party is the problem because they won't get out of the way to allow anyone to counter the Dems with practical platform planks.
I'm nationalist with some classical liberal views and am certainly a racial identitarian. Is that even a word?
Certain groups (cultural, racial, political) have provable traits. If the trait of a group is problematic for society, then that's where you concentrate the corrective attention. That isn't allowed anymore. Everyone else has to suffer instead of correcting a group's behavior and by teaching responsibility. Neil Peart's final lyric in The Trees applies. But the problem group isn't really the problem. It's those preventing the instructional measures, and that is just like the GOP today.
You're a pretty typical Normie-Con. Normie-Con's "believe". They don't perceive. They believe in things that no longer exist, or never did. They don't perceive what is actually happening. Conversely, the progressive liberal can't allow himself to see what is happening because it's inhumane and anti-human and he just wants his ultimate (selfish) goal. They actually think someone on the other side is at fault for them not succeeding or succeeding at some utopia.
Normie-Cons are Republican first. Conservatives aren't.
The Republicans are just the Dems of 5-10 years ago. Eff them.
The Dems are radically pro-invader. The Republican answer is to allow the illegal invasions that the Dems want because (1) the donor class buys them off, and (2) there are billions more invaders than traditional Americans that they don't want tvoting against them like the Black, Jewish and Hispanics typically do.
Both parties are just selling America out.
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couldahadaV8
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AUG 06, 01:33 PM
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