Is Social Justice a disease? (Page 14/21)
olejoedad JAN 19, 12:29 PM
The key to ending racism is good parenting.

The solution does not lie with government, as nearly everything government touches is made worse.
williegoat JAN 19, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The key to ending racism is good parenting.

The solution does not lie with government, as nearly everything government touches is made worse.


And therein lies one of the most (if not the very most) egregious failings of our society in my lifetime. From LBJ's "Great Society" to Hillary Clinton's "It Takes a Village", the left has sought to supplant the roll of the family with the government.
randye JAN 19, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


current issues where people aren't equal due to recent policies.





WHAT "recent policies" ?

NAME THEM WITH SPECIFICITY and not more of the word salad you've used in this thread so far.

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theBDub JAN 19, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by randye:


WHAT "recent policies" ?

NAME THEM WITH SPECIFICITY and not more of the word salad you've used in this thread so far.




Redlining.
2.5 JAN 19, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

To put it simply:
- If I were to say "Social Justice is a disease, and racist in nature. People are equal, so it's not worth the conversation," then you are ignoring current issues where people aren't equal due to recent policies.

- If I were to say "We should not act on existing imbalance of power. Yes, it sucks that there are still waves from past policies and decisions, but we shouldn't make bad decisions today because of bad decisions yesterday," then you are acknowledging the current issues, but you have a personal stance that any Social Justice decisions implemented today are the wrong idea.

I'd suggest that second option is a lot more powerful.



I choose the one that is true, (the bold) not the one, or any because it has some sort of power, or makes some people feel better.

Its no doubt that racism is a tool for power, thats why they insist on using it.
randye JAN 19, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


Redlining.




Specifically Prohibited by:

The Civil Rights Act of 1968 (also enacted 18 U.S.C. § 245)

AND

The Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) at 15 U.S.C. § 1691 et seq.), enacted 1974

AND

The Home Mortgage Disclosure Act 12 U.S.C. ch. 29 §§ 2801-2811 enacted 1975

AND


The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA, P.L. 95-128, 91 Stat. 1147, title VIII of the Housing and Community Development Act , 12 U.S.C. § 2901 enacted 1977

The "CRA" has also been updated / revised in 1989, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1999, 2005, 2007 and 2008

............................

Got any more of your "recent policies"?

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maryjane JAN 19, 05:40 PM
oops...wrong thread.

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theBDub JAN 19, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by randye:


Specifically Prohibited by:

The Civil Rights Act of 1968 (also enacted 18 U.S.C. § 245)

AND

The Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) at 15 U.S.C. § 1691 et seq.), enacted 1974

AND

The Home Mortgage Disclosure Act 12 U.S.C. ch. 29 §§ 2801-2811 enacted 1975

AND


The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA, P.L. 95-128, 91 Stat. 1147, title VIII of the Housing and Community Development Act , 12 U.S.C. § 2901 enacted 1977

The "CRA" has also been updated / revised in 1989, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1999, 2005, 2007 and 2008

............................

Got any more of your "recent policies"?




Yes, Randy. I consider the dates you’re listing on these to be recent. Many here were alive for these.
randye JAN 19, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


Yes, Randy. I consider the dates you’re listing on these to be recent. Many here were alive for these.




Does it hurt when you twist yourself into a pretzel like that to avoid responsibility for your ignorance?

NO FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENT AGENCY, NOR ANY FEDERALLY CHARTERED BANK OR CREDIT UNION, HAS PRACTICED REDLINING FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS.


After all these years though it's still the popular go-to shibboleth for ignorant SJWs and people with piss-poor credit history and / or insufficient income to qualify as a reasonable credit risk anywhere.



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Originally posted by theBDub:

current issues where people aren't equal due to recent policies.






Now that your nonsensical 1960s response "redlining" has been dealt with, I'll ask you again; WHAT "RECENT POLICIES" do you allege are making people unequal?

This is where you young SJWs get into trouble,

You're fine while spewing out a bunch of propaganda BS and word salad nonsense but you're totally inept when you have to answer with facts instead of feelings.

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theBDub JAN 19, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by randye:
Now that your nonsensical 1960s response "redlining" has been dealt with, I'll ask you again; WHAT "RECENT POLICIES" do you allege are making people unequal?

This is where you young SJWs get into trouble,

You're fine while spewing out a bunch of propaganda BS and word salad nonsense but you're totally inept when you have to answer with facts instead of feelings.




Lmao, Randy, step away from the keyboard, you’ve built yourself up into a frenzy!

You’ve quoted me. Where did I say governments and banks have been redlining people as a matter of policy in the last 50 years?

I didn’t say that. Use facts now, not feelings. Did I say that?

What I did say, was that people are still not equal today because of recent policies. That’s what I said, and it is true. You somehow think that because we passed legislation banning redlining recently, that all of the actions taken by those policies has no impact? You believe that the area you grew up in has no impact on your life?

Now, redlining does still occur. It’s all implicit now, not explicit, but just look at settlements over it even in the last decade.

But that’s besides my post.