Any socialism fans in the house? (Page 13/21)
sourmash OCT 13, 03:09 PM
How about we just let people be who they are and do it the way it's allowed?
The board has challenges when you try to quote on a mobile.

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williegoat OCT 13, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Your statemwnt is clear; Germans supported the National Socialists because it was the lazy thing to do and Germans in the Weimar were not being turned into victims of a new Sodom. Hyperinflation and starvation is laziness and looking to blame others for making them.starve. They weren't being brutalized by Poles or others. They weren't being bilked for war costs.

You're the guy who called Trump supporters White supremacists exactly like BLM, Antifa and radicals do, and it's most likely so you can virtue signal to save your neck if it comes your time for the radicals to come after you. You'll throw others under the bus instead. You have a typical non-conservative position. Why are you upset if I observe it? Just be you.



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sourmash OCT 13, 03:40 PM

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What is my false statement?



Re-read it.


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No actually you inferred that. Go ahead and ask him if thats what he said.
Here is his quote:
"Yep, socialism, including the Nazi version, appeals to some because it allows them to blame someone else for their failures. Capitalism, on the other hand, encourages people to improve their own lives. This does not appeal to lazy people."
I'll add two questions: who did Hitler blame for their societies Ills, who needed to be "removed"? Now I'm no expert but here is my other question , you probably know this, were all german citizens Nazis? Was there a public that the nazi's tried to influence?



Were they all NAZIs? Was it called NAZI Germany? Yes. Was that the party elected to power? Yes.
People vote for socialism to raise themselves up, just as the Germans did. That's exactly how the party came into power. They were NOT strong armed into it. willie is not infrequently wrong and it's because his beliefs on some topics are based on Hollywood propaganda.
No, the people were not all NSDAP.


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Here's the thing we dont know what you believe, so I wouldnt be shocked it people ask questions in order to learn more. You can claim people are triggered, it equates to name calling though. I havent seen anyone claim you are a " leftist or a radical anything." so I'm not sure why you brought that up.



So you aren't watching them. You're taking his side while he's the guy who calls me NAZI by saying I have lightning bolts on my neck.

So, YOU are a "we"? Group think isn't a virtue and it isn't helping you in this issue. Be yourself. Worry about yourself. It'll be less confusing for you.


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The closest I've come is things adding up to you not liking Isreal, and not liking the US.



And there it is. I knew it, but you didn't want to admit it until now. You didn't think it was obvious?! You're trying to create a reason to dismiss my critiques against Republicans. I bash the left. Republicans represent the left and they don't get a pass. Deal with it. Me observing it isn't what makes it happen. Support your statement. I have plenty to say about Dems, BLM, Antifa, Republicans in the GOP, CRT and barely ever mention Israel, 90% of that mentioning is when someone here brings it up. And that's where you're triggered and why you're provoking. Do you live in America? I do. I'm American over any nation. Any nation placed above America is an issue for everyone.


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Next to that sympathetic claims for Nazis. I know there are such things as devils advocates, but when that is all they are they dont accomplish much. Usually the devils advocate is an approach to get to a point.



You have sympathetic claims for NAZIs? Yeah, there you go. You asked if all Germans were NAZIs and now you're using that tack that they are as accepted fact. Hypocrite much?
My statement all along is the same to you as it is to Ray b. Actions cause reactions. There is no sympathy for authoritarian regimes. If you provoke people, they will eventually respond. Without the communism, oppressive poverty and hyperinflation which was caused by the Treaty of Versailles, there would be no NAZI power. How does AMERICA RESEMBLE 1930s GERMANY? Those who refuse to learn history...


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Sounds like we are misunderstanding each other on top of all the rest. I will say I have not seen anything resembling solutions suggested. Maybe I missed them. (Also I dont read all threads) I dont "pin people to political machines". I treat people as individuals. Though yes typically groups of people thinking like minded do get things done, lol. At the very least I do like to hear what they believe, what they want to see happen, for example, its even nice to know why, or how.



No. it's you trying to ignore my positions and now you've revealed why you're doing it. You're a phony, dude. Yes, you're bold enough to say you don't see me being called NAZI, though aren't you? I've said this before and it's a radical way to say it; NAZIs call me Jew. Jews call me NAZI. It's because I investigate actual history instead of the Hollywood version. We won't avoid what's coming to the West, though. People want the Hollywood version with the predictive programming.

STOP SUPPORTING PHONIES IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! Got it now? I bet not. Romney, McCain, Ryan, Bush. Those are not answers to leftism.

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sourmash OCT 13, 03:53 PM
willie, Trump supporters aren't White supremacists. I know BLM, Antifa, radical leftists and you have said it, but I would urge you to consider true conservatism as a political ideology for a change.

The socialists in 1930s chose socialism to lift themselves up out of hyperinflation, out of debt bondage from a war started by England and out of debauchery and sexual bondage that was placed upon them. They chose Nationalism to support their fellow people.

Would they have gone radical if they weren't forced into a corner? No. Actions have reactions. You claim to be a capitalist? You're blaming the poor for their hyperinflation? I guess that's your type of capitalism?
williegoat OCT 13, 04:08 PM
Is there ANYONE on this forum with whom you are not actively trying to pick a fight?
2.5 OCT 13, 04:11 PM
Tired fo so many quotes, trying a new way


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Originally posted by sourmash:
1. Re-read it.

2. It'll be less confusing for you.

3.You're trying to create a reason to dismiss my critiques

4. Hypocrite much?

5. it's you trying to ignore my positions and now you've revealed why you're doing it.

6. STOP SUPPORTING PHONIES IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! Got it now? I bet not. Romney, McCain, Ryan, Bush. Those are not answers to leftism.




1. I'm thinking you have me confused with someone else. I'm asking YOU, re-read what?

2. I'm not confused, still seeking info. But I think you are grouping me in with other people, as if we all think the same.

3. You can stop diagnosing me with what you think will make you more right, at any time. Its a waste of both our time.

4. Thats one big chip on your shoulder. You are so far out in the weeds that responding seems to only dig you deeper as though it will take more than exists to pull you out.

5. If you would only stick to thoughts and facts instead of accusations.

6. I never said they were. I'd ask you for your opinion on the answers to leftism, but I tried that once already. Got labelled that I was trying to force you into a narrative. Not that I care what labels you slap on me, but I'm not a fan of spinning my wheels to no avail either.

I'd suggest run a filter of sorts, read your stuff before posting it, pull out all the BS accusations, maybe pretend you are talking to someone you dont have a manufactured contempt for. It just might make you more understood.
2.5 OCT 13, 04:20 PM
Back closer to on topic.


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Originally posted by sourmash:

...People vote for socialism to raise themselves up...




Id say people who vote for socialism think they are voting to raise everyone up.
Reason being essentially they don't think personal responsibilty and accountability works.
They vote to remove personal freedom.
sourmash OCT 13, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Is there ANYONE on this forum with whom you are not actively trying to pick a fight?



You call people names when they don't agree with you. Is there anyone you won't do that to?
williegoat OCT 13, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:


You call people names when they don't agree with you. Is there anyone you won't do that to?


You, Furgal and Boondawg all have said that, but have never been able to provide an example.
williegoat OCT 13, 04:26 PM
The three of you seem to have a lot in common.