They can't see the Forrest for the trees. Tennessee lawmakers. A Confederate general. (Page 12/12)
rinselberg JUL 12, 09:29 PM
Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and one more . . . a statue of the famed explorers Meriwether Lewis and William Clark that included a third representation, of the much celebrated Indigenous American, Native American or American Indian woman (trying to cover all the bases here) Sacagawea (or Sacajawea.)

The Lewis-Clark-Sacagawea monument was also removed from public display after being a part of Charlottesville's public space since 1919.

"The statue was of two White men -- Meriwether Lewis and William Clark -- and Sacagawea, who was depicted [as] tracking, according to historians. Those against the statue have said Sacagawea appears to be cowering . . ."

I guess it could have been worse. What if she'd been depicted as fracking?

"Charlottesville removes Lewis and Clark statue featuring Sacagawea along with Confederate statues"
Amir Vera, Artemis Moshtaghian and Elizabeth Joseph for CNN; July 12, 2021.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07...-virginia/index.html

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-12-2021).]

rinselberg JUL 17, 08:09 AM

quote
Originally posted by Nazareth:
Knoxville you say? Interesting that the EXPERT seems to have missed the mark here


Yeah, that's a "gotcha." I went to Knoxville here (so to speak) instead of Nashville, because some of the online reports that I've looked at in this little game have been from Knoxville-based news and reporting venues, and because Nashville has been more closely associated with country music in my memory, than being the capital of Tennessee.

I'm glad to see that Nazareth looked in here. At least that one time.

So as I am waiting to see whether the big bronze head or bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest is removed from its current and prominent perch inside the Tennessee State Capitol Building, and relocated to the nearby Tennessee State Museum, I have this:

quote
"Robert E. Lee himself said in 1869, after the Civil War, 'Make no monuments to the Confederacy. It will only keep open the sores, the wounds of this thing.'"


That was filmmaker Ken Burns, talking about something that Robert E Lee is known to have said in 1869, as the president of what was, at that time, Washington University, which eventually was renamed to Washington & Lee University.

"Ken Burns says Confederate statues should come down: Civil War historian says the monuments are 'an attempt to rewrite history'"
Tim Stickings for the Daily Mail; June 25, 2020.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk...atues-come-down.html

Just something I picked up on from MSNBC's "The 11th Hour."
https://www.msnbc.com/the-1...spiracy-116922949542

I think moving the Nathan Bedford Forrest bronze from the state capitol building to the nearby state museum would be very much in line with this admonition from none other than Robert E Lee.

"Can you say it is not so?"



quote
Can you say it is not so?

Is this a line of dialogue from the Ed Wood movie "Plan 9 from Outer Space"..? That's my impression, but in the few moments that I've given for this, I haven't been able to confirm it.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-17-2021).]

randye JUL 17, 09:06 PM

quote
Originally posted by rinselberg:


"Can you say it is not so?"





We can say that you are still giddy about racist DEMORATS taking down statues of their fellow racist DEMORATS to attempt to erase their own history.
rinselberg JUL 18, 01:18 AM

quote
Originally posted by randye:

We can say that you are still giddy about racist DEMORATS taking down statues of their fellow racist DEMORATS to attempt to erase their own history.




So tell me if you can remember, Mr E, when did you first begin to think that you might be more than just one person?


There's that "royal we" again.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-18-2021).]

randye JUL 18, 06:36 PM
PENNOCKS PERPETUAL PURVEYOR OF PERJURY promotes YET ANOTHER LIE



quote
Originally posted by rinselberg:


"Robert E. Lee himself said in 1869, after the Civil War, 'Make no monuments to the Confederacy. It will only keep open the sores, the wounds of this thing."







"A frequent, (and false), argument against Confederate monuments is a “sound bite” of a quote from General Robert E. Lee in 1869 in some variation to “I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war.”
The time of the event and the Monument Movement is significant. Understanding this connection changes the meaning of the “sound bite” entirely."

https://www.abbevilleinstit...t-monuments-in-1869/

By the way, Kenny Burns is a film maker.

He is an entertainer.

He has no university degree and IS NOT A HISTORIAN.

He is not an authority on the US Civil War nor is he an authority or an academic on any of the other topics of which he has made entertainment films.

WE can see that YOU however are an "expert" at purveying falsehoods, lies, deceit, half-truths, ignorant speculation, unsupported conjecture, wild misinformation. and LEFTIST propaganda.

The vast preponderance of the excrement that you bescumber this forum with is completely lacking truth, fact, reality or any redeeming value whatsoever.

[This message has been edited by randye (edited 07-18-2021).]

rinselberg JUL 19, 02:16 PM
This is from Erik Scheizig for TNJ "On The Hill"
https://onthehill.tnjournal...ust-removal-be-near/

* * *

The yearslong fight over removing a bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest could soon be coming to an end. The State Building Commission is scheduled to take up the matter on Thursday. If past voting patterns by the panel’s members hold, the monument could soon be headed for the Tennessee State Museum.

The Tennessee Lookout‘s Sam Stockard has taken a look at how it could play out:

The State Capitol Commission is set to request Thursday that the State Building Commission concur with its decision to relocate three busts, including one of Confederate Lt. Gen. Forrest, to the State Museum, moving them out of the State Capitol after years of upheaval.

To some degree, the decision pits Gov. Bill Lee against Lt. Gov. Randy McNally and House Speaker Cameron Sexton, who are likely to be outnumbered if they vote against the relocation. But it also could clear up a year-old legal question on the matter.

One State Building Commission member who hasn’t participated in the process, Comptroller Jason Mumpower, indicated he is likely to vote for relocation. Three other members of the Building Commission have voted already to move the busts as members of other commissions.

“Based on a motion authored by my predecessor, Comptroller Emeritus Justin P. Wilson, the State Capitol Commission and Tennessee Historical Commission have previously agreed that the historical significance of these busts can be better reflected through display at the State Museum,” Mumpower said in a statement.

Lee, who last year sought removal of the Forrest bust from the State Capitol, has scheduled a press conference for Thursday morning, shortly before the State Building Commission is to meet. Its topic has not been revealed.

* * *

The latest coverage in the runup to what many across the nation becomes "Victory Over Nathan Bedford Forrest Day" continues online at the Tennessee Lookout:
https://tennesseelookout.co...building-commission/