Why Does Texas Have Its Own Power Grid? (Page 12/17)
cliffw FEB 22, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
There's "Texas Exceptionalism" and there's "Texas Exceptionalism Gone Wild."

Where do you want to be?



I find myself in Texas, exactly where I want to be.
williegoat FEB 22, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

I find myself in Texas, exactly where I want to be.


I heard a great quote from Willie Nelson the other day:
"I'm from Texas, and one of the reasons I like Texas is because there's no one in control."
williegoat FEB 22, 04:47 PM
OK, this is too funny not to post:



I think that's Ted on the right, with the vihuela.

edit: The left is obviously taunting Senator Cruz because of his trip to Mexico. Last year, Biden held a rally in Phoenix and also used Mariachis, presumably to ingratiate himself to our Latino population.

What is the left's curious obsession with Mariachis? Could it be racially motivated? Are they possibly perpetuating a racial stereotype?

In a way, it is kind of like saying that Dixieland bands are representative of all Americans.

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maryjane FEB 22, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


Apparently, you either don't or haven't read any of my posts. While I do support and agree with most (but, not all) of DJT's policies and that he did a good job, I am not and have never been a Trumper.

BTW, took a friend and my daughter with her family out to dinner tonight. On the way there, we stopped for fuel. There were already 7 or 8 Alabama Electric bucket trucks there getting fuel and while we were there, another 7 or 8 rolled in. As we were leaving I asked if they were headed to TX. They said yes. I don't know for sure but, I didn't think AL and Texas were cooperative in the Grid system so, I assume AL is reaching out to help, not sure if the "independent" Texans asked for it or not.

Rams



You obviously have no idea how the US electric utility system works when it comes to damage, nor do you understand that not all of Texas is part of ERCOT.
The MAA is a federally mandated and administrated agreement as part of the National Response Framework and individual states have no option to be able to opt out of it.
The information is readily available, even in Mississippi, but it's up to you to understand it.

blackrams FEB 22, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

You obviously have no idea how the US electric utility system works when it comes to damage, nor do you understand that not all of Texas is part of ERCOT.
The MAA is a federally mandated and administrated agreement as part of the National Response Framework and individual states have no option to be able to opt out of it.
The information is readily available, even in Mississippi, but it's up to you to understand it.



Don,
What I do or don't understand isn't the issue, all I've commented on was based on published reports. Although it might take a few days, even here in Mississippi we get national news.

It's clearly obvious you take that Texas pride thing to the extreme, I don't care, that's your choice and as you have previously stated many times, choices have consequences. According to the "news", millions of Texans are still suffering due to some apparently bad management. You have power, good for you.
Your choice, I simply don't chose to drink from that pitcher.
Have a good day.

Rams

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sourmash FEB 23, 09:15 AM
Maybe try buying a piece of flood plain land and you could get that feeling of superiority too?
rinselberg FEB 23, 12:14 PM
Reader's guide (first draft) for self-directed exploration of liberal media's presentation of February 2021 Texas energy and water-related infrastructure and delivery systems disruptions related to Winter Storm Uri.

"Texas Pays the Price of the Culture War"

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Instead of focusing on governance, Republican politicians in the Lone Star State spent their time inflaming grievances.

Adam Serwer for The Atlantic; February 22, 2021.
https://www.theatlantic.com...-culture-war/618107/

"Et Tu, Ted? Why Deregulation Failed"

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Even Senator Cruz realizes kilowatt-hours aren’t like avocados.

Paul Krugman for the New York Times; February 22, 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...ectricity-storm.html

"Why Texas Republicans Fear the Green New Deal"

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Small government is no match for a crisis born of the state’s twin addictions to market fixes and fossil fuels.

Naomi Klein for the New York Times; February 21, 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...-texas-blackout.html

"Texas Failed Because It Did Not Plan"

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What went wrong? The Lone Star State made three fundamental errors.

Robinson Meyer for The Atlantic; February 21, 2021.
https://www.theatlantic.com...-wrong-texas/618104/

"How Texas’ Drive for Energy Independence Set It Up for Disaster"

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Texas has refused to join interstate electrical grids and railed against energy regulation. Now it’s having to answer to millions of residents who were left without power in last week’s snowstorm.

Clifford Krauss, Manny Fernandez, Ivan Penn and Rick Rojas for the New York Times; February 21, 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...ercot-blackouts.html

"Dallas County, TX Judge: ‘You Can Put This At The Foot Of The Governor’s Office’"

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Judge Clay Jenkins from Dallas County remarks on the failures of Governor Greg Abbott and other leaders in Texas as thousands struggled through days without power during a winter storm. Aired on 02/19/2021. Interview with MSNBC anchor Nicolle Wallace. YouTube video segment, 5 minutes 20 seconds.

https://youtu.be/mYmblnBhYJc

"A Plan to Future-Proof the Texas Power Grid"

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The state’s massive blackouts are the result of a failure to insure against extreme weather.

Jesse Jenkins for the New York Times; February 18, 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...roof-texas-grid.html

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blackrams FEB 23, 09:27 PM
ERCOT Managers Resign After Widespread Storm Outages

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...1dX9xC?ocid=msedgntp

Five officials will resign from the board overseeing the Texas power grid after it was pushed to the brink of collapse by the recent winter storm, leaving millions without electricity during some of the coldest temperatures the state has experienced in a generation.

a street filled with lots of traffic: A line at a San Antonio food distribution center on Sunday after a winter storm left millions without power.© Christopher Lee for The New York Times A line at a San Antonio food distribution center on Sunday after a winter storm left millions without power.
The Electric Reliability Council of Texas, the board that governs the flow of power for more than 26 million people in the state, has been blamed for the widespread outages, prompting the governor, lawmakers and federal officials to begin inquiries into the system’s failures, particularly in preparation for cold weather.

The five board members, who intend to resign at the conclusion of a meeting scheduled for Wednesday morning, were all from outside of Texas, a point of contention for critics who questioned the wisdom of outsiders playing such an influential role in the state’s infrastructure.

In a statement on Tuesday filed with the Public Utility Commission, four of the board members said they were stepping down “to allow state leaders a free hand with future direction and to eliminate distractions.” In a footnote, the filing added that a fifth member was also resigning.

Those departing are Sally Talberg, the chairwoman and a former state utility regulator who lives in Michigan; Peter Cramton, the vice chairman and an economics professor at the University of Cologne in Germany and the University of Maryland; Terry Bulger, a retired banking executive who lives in Illinois; Raymond Hepper, a former official with the agency overseeing the power grid in New England; and Vanessa Anesetti-Parra, who oversees regulatory affairs for a company headquartered in Canada. Another person who was supposed to fill a vacant seat, Craig S. Ivey, has withdrawn from the 16-member board.

a man in a garden: Although ERCOT governs the flow of power for more than 26 million people in Texas, the four board members who resigned all lived outside of the state.© Michael Stravato for The New York Times Although ERCOT governs the flow of power for more than 26 million people in Texas, the four board members who resigned all lived outside of the state.

The board became the target of blame and scrutiny after the winter storm last week brought the state’s electric grid precariously close to a complete blackout that could have taken months to recover from. In a last-minute effort to avert that, the council, known as ERCOT, ordered rolling outages that plunged much of the state into darkness and caused electricity prices to skyrocket. Some customers had bills well over $10,000.

The weather crippled the system as power plants were knocked offline and pumps used to produce the natural gas needed to fuel them froze over.

State officials have said ERCOT had offered assurances that the power infrastructure was prepared to endure winter conditions.

“But those assurances proved to be devastatingly false,” Gov. Greg Abbott said in a statement, adding, “When Texans were in desperate need of electricity, ERCOT failed to do its job and Texans were left shivering in their homes without power.”

As the state was reeling from the crisis, the realization that some board members lived out of state became a source of outrage, so much so that ERCOT initially took down information about them from its website. Officials said the members had been harassed and threatened.

One state lawmaker said he was weighing proposing legislation that would bar people who were not Texas residents from serving on the board.

“If you’re not living here, if you’re not experiencing what we’re experiencing, and yet you’re charged with making decisions on our behalf, that’s unacceptable,” Jeff Leach, a state representative whose district covers a swath of the Dallas suburbs, said in a recent interview.

The resignations come as the State Legislature prepares to hold hearings on the power outages on Thursday. The Harris County attorney, whose jurisdiction includes Houston, said on Tuesday that he was initiating a civil investigation examining decisions made by ERCOT and the Public Utility Commission, among others, and the district attorney in Travis County, which includes Austin, said he was opening a criminal investigation.

In a statement, ERCOT said, “We look forward to working with the Texas Legislature, and we thank the outgoing board members for their service.”

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission said late Monday that its enforcement division would review wholesale natural gas and electricity market activity in Texas, presumably to determine whether there was any illegal anticompetitive or price manipulations.

The failures of the power system drove up wholesale electricity prices from $1,200 per megawatt-hour to about $9,000.

Energy analysts said the failure involved not only oversight from ERCOT but electrical providers around the state that did not prepare their systems for harsh weather conditions.

“Heads had to roll but I don’t think it will change anything,” said Michael E. Webber, professor of mechanical engineering at the University of Texas at Austin. “It’s easy to blame the out-of-state board members of the grid operator rather than in-state gas producers and power plant owners.”

Those operators neglected to spend the money to weatherize their instruments, pipelines and electrical lines to resist frigid weather, he said, because they were not obliged to do so by state regulation.

Ivan Penn and Clifford Krauss contributed reporting.

Interesting how this is playing out. It would seem there is more to this than meets the eye.

Rams

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cvxjet FEB 23, 11:40 PM
I heard that some of the ERCOT board members are resigning...The sad thing is, that in these situations, the guys stepping down are the honorable ones, while the ones who stay are the actual ones who should go.
IMSA GT FEB 24, 12:12 AM
And mysteriously all of the vacant positions will be filled by Californians who relocated to Texas.