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JUL 17, 03:41 PM
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The real problem in trying to show the truth is the media already latched on, they are already selling credits, its becoming a business. Which is the real reason I think Gore is in it, that and fame. When they report how much cash "green" ( hate the word too) business is doing, it'll be a runaway train. What they are doing is a waste of time and money that will screw things up in the long run. Conserving energy is fine, but it is already beginning to go too far. Keep digging, this is meant to be a motivator, not a "give up" post.
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FieroFanatic13
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JUL 17, 03:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
The real problem in trying to show the truth is the media already latched on, they are already selling credits, its becoming a business. Which is the real reason I think Gore is in it, that and fame. When they report how much cash "green" ( hate the word too) business is doing, it'll be a runaway train. What they are doing is a waste of time and money that will screw things up in the long run. Conserving energy is fine, but it is already beginning to go too far. Keep digging, this is meant to be a motivator, not a "give up" post. |
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I'm not completely on either side of the fence on this issue- but a kicker here is that EVEN if Gore or others turn out to be completely wrong, that's OKAY because they were trying to do the "right thing" or had "good intentions..." So you can say things like "Global Warming will lead to severe hurricane seasons this summer," and then when there are FEWER hurricanes, you can just say "Well, that's PROOF of global warming because Global Warming makes the weather unpredictible" and people take you seriously. THAT is what I don't understand. I prefer facts over opinion, especially on issues of science that can be proven through evidence...
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Uaana
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JUL 17, 08:55 PM
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2.5
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JUL 18, 08:24 AM
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| | | quote | Originally posted by FieroFanatic13:
I'm not completely on either side of the fence on this issue- but a kicker here is that EVEN if Gore or others turn out to be completely wrong, that's OKAY because they were trying to do the "right thing" or had "good intentions..." QUOTE]
It was hard to tell you were not saying this yourself 1st time I read it. Ya I would agre they do not have good intentions, good for their wallets ya. UNless they are that misguided and closed minded them selves, maybe they believe their own muck.
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4-mulaGT
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JUL 18, 10:02 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 2.5:
It was hard to tell you were not saying this yourself 1st time I read it. Ya I would agre they do not have good intentions, good for their wallets ya. UNless they are that misguided and closed minded them selves, maybe they believe their own muck.
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ya know, call me crazy but I believe all politicians actually believe what they are saying,
We've all seen how brainwashed some people can be, so what happens when an articulate wealthy person gets truned in the wrong direction?
I can see how people would think that people like pelosi and gore would be doing it for thier own greed or power, but I honestly think they are just that stupid.
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fierobear
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JUL 18, 10:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ryan.hess:
yeah, good one. Nobody here is "open minded". It's like smokey yunicks car. Either you believe it got 500mpg and 200hp or you don't. If you do, you think everyone else is being paid by the oil companies. If you don't, you think everyone's a quack. There's no middle ground and nobody will change. |
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No doubt people have biases. I'm trying to be open minded on this. I'm doing my own reading, research, and trying to understand the science. What got me to examine this myself was the hype, bullshit, and hysteria surrounding AGW.
| quote | I could post different studies refuting all of your points one by one... would it make a difference? No. The IPCC was paid off by Gore and all the scientists are sleeping with Alicia Silverstone. Open mind my ass.
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Oh, I know. We both can post studies going either way. I've been involved in a discussion elsewhere that is over 400 pages long on this subject. Post away. I'd like to keep it friendly and reasonable. If you'd like to discuss it, go for it.
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fierobear
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JUL 18, 10:38 AM
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Raydar
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JUL 18, 05:38 PM
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fierobear
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JUL 18, 08:46 PM
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Sick of green bumper sticker...
Edit: Cliff says I shouldn't post it, so here is a link to it[This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 07-19-2008).]
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4-mulaGT
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JUL 19, 03:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierobear:
Not sure if Cliff will allow this. If not, sorry Cliff, take it down if needed.
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