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theBDub
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JAN 20, 09:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
I applaud you on your recognition that the murder of Ashli Babbitt was wrongful / unjustified, HOWEVER:
If there was an "insurrection attempt" as you claim then explain why after over a year later NOBODY has been charged with "insurrection".
HOW DO YOU HAVE AN INSURRECTION WITHOUT INSURRECTIONISTS?
NOBODY in that hallway along with Ashli Babbitt has been charged with "insurrection".
NOBODY anywhere in or around the capitol building that day has been charged with "insurrection"
NOBODY anywhere in the entire United States has been charged with "insurrection" as a result of that day.
You might as well be quacking about cattle rustling or a train robbery because those things didn't happen either.
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( NOTE to our resident Leftist "intellectuals": WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A MERE 11 PEOPLE CHARGED WITH "SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY". That is a different crime and a different charge. As difficult as we know it is for you to stay focused, please at least try.)
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Truth is not determined only by what can be proven in a court of law.
That doesn’t mean it did happen, just that I completely reject the idea that *because nobody has been charged,* therefore *it didn’t happen*.
Let’s look at the definition. Oxford defines an insurrection as “a violent uprising against an authority or government.”
This was an attempted uprising against the government, to wrongfully overthrow the election results. There was violence. I don’t think there is any question that, by the definition of insurrection, this was an attempted insurrection.
You keep parroting the same crap, and it doesn’t change what happened last year. You want to ignore it, but we shouldn’t.
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rinselberg
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JAN 20, 10:06 PM
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"Take the Insurrection narrative seriously but not literally."
Does that ring a bell with anyone?
The Ashli Babbit Electoral Count Act of 2022... coming to a Congress near you. Designed to eliminate some of the buttons and levers that were pushed on by Trump or pro-Trump factions during the run-up to the Not An Insurrection of January 6. Buttons and levers that were created by the Electoral Count Act of 1887.
Ashli Babbitt will never be more than a footnote in the larger story of January 6.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-20-2022).]
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williegoat
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JAN 20, 10:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Ashli Babbitt will never be more than a footnote in the larger story of January 6.
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No. January 6th will be remembered as the day Ashli Babbitt was martyred. Pelosi’s inquisition will be a footnote, another example of the tyranny which will result in insurrection, barring sweeping governmental reform.
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randye
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JAN 21, 12:05 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
The Ashli Babbit Electoral Count Act of 2022...
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*That is simply another figment of your imagination.
There will NEVER be any such act.
Just like there will NEVER be any so-called "John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act" (a/k/a Marxist voting takeover)
Just like there will NEVER be any "Build Back Boondoggle" act.
Just like there will NEVER be any Brandon Vax Mandate.
HOWEVER
The civil lawsuit against INCOMPETENT COWARD Michael Byrd WILL proceed and the plaintiffs will prevail.
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* It does not go without note that NONE of your prognostications on this forum have EVER come to pass. That is NOT a "personal attack".
That is an OBJECTIVE, DOCUMENTED, FACT.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-21-2022).]
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randye
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JAN 21, 12:40 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
Truth is not determined only by what can be proven in a court of law.
That doesn’t mean it did happen, just that I completely reject the idea that *because nobody has been charged,* therefore *it didn’t happen*.
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So instead of answering my direct question posed to you, you simply chose to ignore it and then literally reject factual reality and substitute your opinion.
The best summation of that is: "There was an "attempted insurrection" because I want to believe there was".
Insisting that something is true simply because you want it to be true is most often described as delusional.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-21-2022).]
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rinselberg
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JAN 21, 03:32 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
The Ashli Babbit Electoral Count Act of 2022... coming to a Congress near you. Designed to eliminate some of the buttons and levers that were pushed on by Trump or pro-Trump factions during the run-up to the Not An Insurrection of January 6. Buttons and levers that were created by the Electoral Count Act of 1887. |
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I admit to some "advertising puffery" in that statement. Very intentional, on my part. I think that the public at large will be seeing more about the idea of Congress voting on changes to the Electoral Count Act of 1887. To make the counting and certification of the Electoral votes less vulnerable to a Green Bay Sweep or other fraudulently motivated shenanigans.
"Lord hear our prayer."[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-21-2022).]
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theBDub
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JAN 21, 07:53 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
So instead of answering my direct question posed to you, you simply chose to ignore it and then literally reject factual reality and substitute your opinion.
The best summation of that is: "There was an "attempted insurrection" because I want to believe there was".
Insisting that something is true simply because you want it to be true is most often described as delusional.
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Quite the hop, skip, and leap there from what I actually said. Your claim that there was no insurrection because nobody has been charged with insurrection is completely bogus, and I think you know that.
The reason nobody has been charged with insurrection is because prosecutors would have to prove intent beyond all reasonable doubt, which you know is difficult to prove even when there is clear intent. I have no insider information here, but I have to imagine charges aren’t done being filed. As more evidence is continued to be collected, more charges will come, up to and possibly including insurrection.
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olejoedad
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JAN 21, 11:53 AM
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JAN 21, 12:23 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
might have had a gun, a spray can of chemical irritants or who knows what else in her backpack.
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Yes context does matter, still a fail.
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rinselberg
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JAN 21, 02:20 PM
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That's a real "eyebrow raiser."
I so much like what's being reported in my preferred, news-style media venues (NBC News, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo . . .) about this Jan. 6 committee and its work, overall--the cut of its jib, so to speak--that the most I will say is that I am uncertain that I want to agree with what the committee has been doing, as described in that report.
I certainly hope--nay, even *pray* that the lawsuit that's been filed by Budowich is argued intelligently by both sides and decided sagely and expeditiously in the Court of Appeals that is referenced in that report.
"Lord hear my prayer."[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-21-2022).]
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