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2.5
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NOV 23, 11:08 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fats:
Well things took a turn here I guess.
My manager put her notice in, she's taking vacation, back one day on the 29th, and then off to greener pastures.
(Edit to add) My manager has had the shots as well. Her daughter was in the hospital this year, and they told her she could only stay with her if she got the vaccine.
#MichiganLife
Then about half the drivers, including me, put in our notice as well.
I take my vacation at the end of December, and come back to get my car and drive it home.
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I hope companies learn not to push their employees around and instead push back against gov BS.
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rinselberg
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NOV 23, 11:09 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fats:
I've quit clicking on your threads over time because they just tend to be you jerking yourself off and you refuse to allow anyone to have even a glimmer of a different viewpoint. |
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I read that entire message from the man with the "lipid-intensive" screen name, and I am not offended by it. Or angry with it. I actually find much good in it.
I don't agree with him saying (this single sentence that I quoted from him) that I "refuse to allow anyone to have even a glimmer of a different viewpoint."
I emphatically disagree with that. And to make this--which a moment ago was "that"--into an example, I am not refusing to allow him to have a different viewpoint about this. I'm not trying to insult him over this. I am just disagreeing (emphatically) with his viewpoint on this. Or is it "that"..? "To tell the truth, in all the excitement, I've kind of lost track myself."
When I indulged in my "Western media" response, that ran to just over 300 words, I didn't think of myself as "feuding with" or "trolling on" blackrams. I mostly thought of myself in that moment as drilling down on the particular phrase "Western media" that blackrams had just used. But it hasn't been seen that way by others (obviously) and for that--well, I guess the responsibility and the blame (blame, because there is fault) could very well rest on my shoulders.
It's not an easy burden for me to accept--even the possibility of it--but the situation here demands it of me. So I will try to stand up under this unexpected burden today, and for such time as the gravity of it continues to weigh upon me.
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Jake_Dragon
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NOV 23, 11:49 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I read that entire message from the man with the "lipid-intensive" screen name, and I am not offended by it. Or angry with it. I actually find much good in it.
I don't agree with him saying (this single sentence that I quoted from him) that I "refuse to allow anyone to have even a glimmer of a different viewpoint."
I emphatically disagree with that. And to make this--which a moment ago was "that"--into an example, I am not refusing to allow him to have a different viewpoint about this. I'm not trying to insult him over this. I am just disagreeing (emphatically) with his viewpoint on this. Or is it "that"..? "To tell the truth, in all the excitement, I've kind of lost track myself."
When I indulged in my "Western media" response, that ran to just over 300 words, I didn't think of myself as "feuding with" or "trolling on" blackrams. I mostly thought of myself in that moment as drilling down on the particular phrase "Western media" that blackrams had just used. But it hasn't been seen that way by others (obviously) and for that--well, I guess the responsibility and the blame (blame, because there is fault) could very well rest on my shoulders.
It's not an easy burden for me to accept--even the possibility of it--but the situation here demands it of me. So I will try to stand up under this unexpected burden today, and for such time as the gravity of it continues to weigh upon me.
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Did you write this sitting in a bean bag with Cheetos cheese all over your face and hands?
Just wondering.
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williegoat
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NOV 23, 12:39 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Did you write this sitting in a bean bag with Cheetos cheese all over your face and hands?
Just wondering. |
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rinselberg
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NOV 23, 01:25 PM
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"Custom Trolling"..? "The Trolling Butler"..? A new venture in the social media space from williegoat . . . is this already being hailed as a unicorn? [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-23-2021).]
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rinselberg
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NOV 23, 02:14 PM
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"US ranks last among 46 countries in trust in media, Reuters Institute report finds"
| quote | | Just 29% of people surveyed in the U.S. said they trust the news, compared to 45% in Canada and 54% in Brazil. |
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| quote | The United States ranks last in media trust — at 29% — among 92,000 news consumers surveyed in 46 countries, a report released Wednesday found. That’s worse than Poland, worse than the Philippines, worse than Peru. (Finland leads at 65%.)
The annual digital news report from the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism at Oxford also found some improvement in trust in nearly all the countries surveyed — probably thanks to COVID-19 coverage — but not in the U.S. where the low rating was flat year to year.
One explanation, though not necessarily the only one, is the extreme political polarization in the U.S. This study, like many others, found extremely high levels of distrust — 75% of those who identify as being on the right thought coverage of their views is unfair.
Local news, both print and broadcast, fared better than national news. However, the findings for struggling local print outlets were not all good. . . . |
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It's not a long article. If anyone wants the whole enchilada, here you go:
https://www.poynter.org/eth...titute-report-finds/
It's credited to Rick Edmonds and dated June 24, 2021.
The question, still unresolved: "Where did blackrams read this?" ("On the throne" is not an acceptable response.)
All this seeming brouhaha that I've created about the phrase "Western media" may seem like nothing more than that--brouhaha--but it goes to the heart of what we believe, and how we believe. It's foundational to every non-trivial topic that appears on this forum. "That allegation deserves the attention of every American."
Mueller's very last public words on the Mueller investigation.
What was that, again? At the very end, there?[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-23-2021).]
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2.5
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NOV 23, 05:18 PM
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Apparently it is listed by OSHA now
https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/ets2
Many employers are following it even though the fine print says:
"On November 12, 2021, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit granted a motion to stay OSHA's COVID-19 Vaccination and Testing Emergency Temporary Standard, published on November 5, 2021 (86 Fed. Reg. 61402) ("ETS"). The court ordered that OSHA "take no steps to implement or enforce" the ETS "until further court order." While OSHA remains confident in its authority to protect workers in emergencies, OSHA has suspended activities related to the implementation and enforcement of the ETS pending future developments in the litigation."
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2.5
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NOV 23, 05:28 PM
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The loophole seems to be this from my earlier posted link:
"1910.501(d)(2)
The employer is exempted from the requirement in paragraph (d)(1) of this section only if the employer establishes, implements, and enforces a written policy allowing any employee not subject to a mandatory vaccination policy to choose either to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or provide proof of regular testing for COVID-19 in accordance with paragraph (g) of this section and wear a face covering in accordance with paragraph (i) of this section.
Note 1 to paragraph (d): Under federal law, including the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, workers may be entitled to a reasonable accommodation from their employer, absent undue hardship. If the worker requesting a reasonable accommodation cannot be vaccinated and/or wear a face covering because of a disability, as defined by the ADA, the worker may be entitled to a reasonable accommodation. In addition, if the vaccination, and/or testing for COVID-19, and/or wearing a face covering conflicts with a worker’s sincerely held religious belief, practice or observance, the worker may be entitled to a reasonable accommodation. For more information about evaluating requests for reasonable accommodation for disability or sincerely held religious belief, employers should consult the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission’s regulations, guidance, and technical assistance including at: https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/w...t-and-other-eeo-laws "
Which leads to this:
https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/w...t-and-other-eeo-laws
The what and how of accomodations the employer must make is my question.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 11-23-2021).]
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randye
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NOV 23, 09:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I read that entire message....
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ANOTHER TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN WORDS...
...simply to say what any normal person would say in just TWO WORDS: "I disagree"
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ls3mach
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NOV 23, 10:07 PM
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A comedian summed it up properly for me. I don't want the free one. I want the one that's like $3000. The one you're giving to Beyonce.
He is right though. History repeats. Why is this one "free"? Why such a push? I'm not educated enough either way. I'm young and healthy. Had it twice. I think I can wait.
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