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randye
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MAR 14, 11:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
All a company has to do is relinquish copyrights on any book or song or published piece. Let the marketplace determine what gets published. You cannot have it both ways. If it's that problematic then give up all rights to a work.
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THAT is precisely why copyright should have the same legal protection as patents or trademarks.
Patents expire after 17 years and can be invalidated before then if they are not exercised, (used). After that they are in the public domain.
Trademarks expire after 10 years unless renewed and can also be invalidated before then if they are not exercised. After that they are in the public domain.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 03-14-2021).]
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 14, 11:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Song of the South used to be available in Europe long, long after being dropped in America.
"Bystander Responsibility" is the term cry-bully & violent criminals are working up to attack those who don't join the mob. Silence is Violence. All this means is join us attacking people or we'll attack you too. |
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Still aint that hard to find if you want it
https://archive.org/details/SongOfTheSouth_Disney[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 03-14-2021).]
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MAR 15, 03:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Is it really self censorship, if the change is prompted by social norms changing and they as a company (or as individuals) do it as a pre-emptive move to head off criticism/backlash from specific demographics?
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Seems so. What are your thoughts on it?
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randye
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MAR 15, 07:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Is it really self censorship, if the change is prompted by social norms changing and they as a company (or as individuals) do it as a pre-emptive move to head off criticism/backlash from specific demographics?
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The Mafia is a small "specific demographic" and capitulating to their extortion demands is "a pre-emptive move to head off" their "backlash".
There are a lot of honorable, honest, long term, brands (i.e. Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben's, etc.) that have capitulated to a small "demographic" in order to "preemptively move to head off criticism/backlash" from that mob.
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."............... Sir Winston Churchill[This message has been edited by randye (edited 03-15-2021).]
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cliffw
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MAR 15, 07:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
The Mafia is a small "specific demographic" and capitulating to their extortion demands is "a pre-emptive move to head off" their "backlash".
There are a lot of honorable, honest, long term, brands (i.e. Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben's, etc.) that have capitulated to a small "demographic" in order to "preemptively move to head off criticism/backlash" from that mob.
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."............... Sir Winston Churchill
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'Ya know, that is a profound post. Because it is so true.
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blackrams
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MAR 16, 07:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Noooo. Dr Seuss Enterprises isn't just about making money. They have been entrusted with the responsibility of perpetuating and curating the memory of the life and works of Theodor Seuss Geisel. They have both the remit and the responsibility to think along the lines of "If Dr Seuss were alive today, how would he feel about some of his books? Would he want to have these particular books continue in publication, or would he want them to be discontinued, leaving only the original manuscripts and whatever copies have already been published as a legacy?"
They are not under any obligation to cede that privilege and responsibility to anyone else.
They could, but they are in no way obligated to do it. They are in no way obligated to turn Dr Seuss into Dr $euss. (See what I just did there?)
I don't think that Dr Seuss Enterprises is a publicly held corporation, but that wouldn't change the fundamentals here. If it were a publicly held corporation, the discontinuation of 6 of the more than 60 Dr Seuss titles could become some kind of issue between the CEO, the corporate Board of Directors and the stockholders, but that is not to say that the CEO and her management team would be under some arbitrary obligation to continue the publication of every title in the Dr Seuss catalog.
The fraudulence of this anti-Cancel Culture kerfuffle over the Seuss books is even apparent to Maple Buescher (of all people) who writes about it today online at Cleveland(.com).
Maple Buescher is a senior at Cleveland Heights High School.
"Dr. Seuss uproar is actually a reminder of how private enterprise is supposed to work"
Maple Buescher; guest columnist for Cleveland(.com); March 14, 2021.
https://www.cleveland.com/o...-maple-buescher.html
Here's Democratic Congressman Tim Ryan of Ohio playing the "Stop Talking About Dr Seuss" card.
https://youtu.be/5F80FHCB70k
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Similar to the Pontiac Fiero, if the sales justified it, the Fiero would still be produced and sold at dealerships.
But, the reason they are offering for no longer selling the books is what stinks. Doesn't matter to me, my children are grown and I won't be buying any more books from Dr. Seuss.
The publisher doesn't wish to be going against the grain of the current fad. Stuff happens.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 03-16-2021).]
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rinselberg
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MAR 21, 09:06 PM
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MSNBC's Ali Velshi goes "Full Dr Seuss"
Somehow, I just finally found my way to this.
You may still remember all the Obama birther baloney from DJT, and maybe (I remember) Newt Gringrich throwing "Kenyan anti-colonial attitudes" (or something along those lines) into that mix.
Ali Velshi is literally a Kenya-born Muslim. This is the first paragraph of his bio on the IMDb website:
| quote | | Born in Kenya and raised in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, [Ali Velshi] is the son of Murad Velshi, an Indian business owner in Africa and then in Canada, and the first Indian-Canadian elected to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario. He is an Ismaili Muslim. |
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[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-21-2021).]
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Hudini
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MAR 22, 07:42 AM
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rinselberg
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MAR 22, 10:40 AM
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A thousand people in the streets. A hundred are rowdy. Only ten become arsonists but it doesn't take long for the fires to spread.
I'm not hell-bent on defending Ali Velshi's coverage from that scene in Minneapolis. That Western Journal Article provides only a brief moment of it.
I think he's on much firmer ground with his rhyming Dr Seuss-style commentary on the Dr Seuss book discontinuations.
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sourmash
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MAR 22, 10:59 AM
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So you support that one can be partially pregnant. I already knew that.
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