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sourmash
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NOV 09, 09:08 AM
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After Hillary is dead of natural causes the press will publish how she really was selling US top secret intel through her unsecured server, intel she had installed on it for that purpose. Anthony Weiner having it on his laptop is proof she is guilty.
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randye
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NOV 09, 11:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
After Hillary is dead of natural causes......
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There will doubtless be many people that will wish to attend the senior Clinton's funerals for the singular purpose of confirming that the heads of that crime family are finally dead.
OH.....BY THE WAY:
The media is also finally starting to call the "Steele" dossier by its correct name:

https://nypost.com/2021/11/...-russiagate-scandal/[This message has been edited by randye (edited 11-09-2021).]
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rinselberg
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NOV 30, 10:17 AM
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David Frum joined the Tuesday edition of MSNBC's "Morning Joe" to discuss his latest column for The Atlantic magazine. Frum speaks, starting at the 2:50 mark, and speaks again, towards the end, at the 7:54 mark. If one were to view this as a stage play, it's the Frum character that has the most important lines.
So you don't know him "frum" who?
| quote | | David Frum is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy (2020). In 2001 and 2002, he was a speechwriter for President George W. Bush. |
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"It Wasn’t a Hoax"
| quote | | People with scant illusions about Trump are volunteering to help him execute one of his Big Lies. |
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David Frum for The Atlantic; November 25, 2021. https://www.theatlantic.com...gence-report/620815/
EXCERPT
| quote | | The factual record on Trump-Russia has been set forth most authoritatively by the report of the Senate Intelligence Committee, then chaired by Richard Burr, a Republican from North Carolina. I’ll reduce the complex details to a very few agreed upon by virtually everybody outside the core Trump-propaganda group. |
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This is followed by a list of 12 bullet points about Trump and Russia.
Frum underlines the fallacy of a reductionist line of thought that cavalierly overestimates the worth of the "Anti-anti-Trump journalists [who] want to use the Steele [dossier] controversy to score points off politicians and media institutions that they dislike."
There are facts that are damning and transactions that are destructive to the fabric of the United States--yet they are not prosecutable crimes.
It's a cogent observation that also applies to the report that is expected from the House Committee tasked with investigating "January 6", as Frum himself remarks during that early morning conversation on Morning Joe.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-30-2021).]
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williegoat
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NOV 30, 01:26 PM
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You are so predictable, I don't even have to read any of your posts anymore.
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rinselberg
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DEC 03, 02:48 AM
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Full Court Frum
It's David Frum again, talking about his latest column for The Atlantic, "It Wasn't a Hoax." This time he's even more to the point. Laser-focused. Not a single superfluous word.
https://youtu.be/Z2MSrv_qM5s?t=1874[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-03-2021).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 11, 10:01 AM
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"Bummer Alert"
That link to YouTube in the previous message doesn't work. And the reason it doesn't work is entirely beyond my control. But I have a transcript. This is David Frum, senior editor and staff writer for The Atlantic, responding on-air to MSNBC anchor Lawrence O'Donnell.
| quote | Well, I think one of the problems we`ve had is that people keep trying to take this [the Trump and Russia] case to court. I mean they`re trying to keep turning this into a criminal matter when it`s a counter intelligence matter. It`s a matter of what are the facts?
What motivated me to write this article, and I think what motivates you to talk about it and the congressman to talk about it is there is now a pushback not coming from only pro-Trump people because what do you expect form them, but for many people who have good records in the past four years, where they were trying to score some other points by saying, well, we want to back away from the Russia business.
The Steele dossier wasn`t all that it should have been. It got overplayed. There are many things we still don`t know. and so we want to tell a different kind of story in order to score points off politicians. We don`t like Hillary Clinton, like TV programs like this one that they don`t like for other reasons.
We have to keep in front of us the plain fact that everything you saw, everything that happened that was important you saw it in front of your own -- with your own eyes. You saw the Russians hack. You saw the Trump campaign try to persuade the world that the hackers were not Russians but were poor, murdered (INAUDIBLE). And in fact insinuate that the Clinton people had somehow not only packed themselves but murdered the people who were the instruments of their hack.
You saw Donald Trump on television welcome the help. And all of these things would have been the biggest scandal in American electoral history except that Donald Trump kept creating even bigger scandals than that.
Through the Trump years there have been many secrets but no mysteries. What you know, you know and you are being gaslit and only by pro-Trump people but unfortunately by people with distinguished records who are now trying to score some another political point, a very subtle one, by denying what was true. |
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"[Russia.] It Wasn’t a Hoax[.]"
David Frum for The Atlantic; November 25, 2021. https://www.theatlantic.com...gence-report/620815/[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-11-2021).]
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randye
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DEC 11, 09:13 PM
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HERE WE GO AGAIN
PENNOCKS PURVEYOR OF PERJURY IS OBSESSED WITH SOMEONE......AGAIN
NOW IT'S DAVID FRUM
As usual it doesn't take more than a couple of minutes to find out the TRUTH about his latest "hero"......at least for anyone who has critical thinking skills.

https://pjmedia.com/columns...-billionaire-n640740
"Pierre Omidyar is a very rich man.
Omidyar is the founder of eBay and the publisher of “The Intercept.” He was a billionaire at the age of 31 and is throwing around his money like his idol, George Soros.
The tech titan runs an extensive operation of nonprofits through the Omidyar Network, based in Silicon Valley. In 2017 alone, his foundation donated roughly $85 million to a variety of causes around the world. As one would expect from a Bay-area billionaire, Omidyar is anything but conservative. He, along with like-minded tycoons such as George Soros and Tom Steyer, promotes a far-left radical agenda.
Thanks to, and PAID BY, Omidyar's Network, Bill Kristol and other Trump haters have created or run several groups, including Defending Democracy Together and the Niskanen Center, which also receives Soros funding.
Niskanen houses a who’s who of NeverTrumpers. Gabe Schoenfeld, author of a hit piece on Victor Davis Hanson, and writer Linda Chavez are senior fellows.
Its advisory board includes McMullin, Finn, David Frum and Tom Nichols.
In December 2018, Niskanen hosted a daylong seminar entitled ‘Starting Over: The Center-Right After Trump’. Panelists included conservatives-turned-lefties Jennifer Rubin, David Frum and Bill Kristol.
....... Toobin to Frum......WOW!....you sure have a habit of picking perverts, propagandists and whores as your heroes.
Has it ever ONCE occurred to you that the stupid things that you think and believe are due to the stupid people and sources that you get your "news" and opinions from?[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-12-2021).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 12, 07:11 AM
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Of course, my first reaction is to remind everyone that this isn't a time for overridingly partisan, knee-jerk, intellectual reductionism. And this, of course, begs the question, is it ever a time for overridingly partisan, knee-jerk, intellectual reductionism? If someone were to say that I am indulging in a mere truism with this remark, I would say, indeed, so I am, because I am responding to a mere truism.
Hold that thought.
I would be remiss if I didn't revisit my previous message (the message immediately before the message immediately before this one) to provide an http(s) link to the transcript of that conversation, aired on December 2, among MSNBC anchor Lawrence O'Donnell, Congressman Eric Swalwell and David Frum.
I've already introduced David Frum to this conversation--one need look no farther back than the message immediately before the message immediately before this one.
Eric Swalwell (D) is a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, elected from California's 15th Congressional District, which includes parts of nearby (*) Alameda and Contra Costa Counties. Congressman Swalwell represented the House of Representatives as the impeachment manager during the second impeachment trial of the former President, Donald Trump. So with no further ado, here is the http(s) link to that transcript: https://www.msnbc.com/trans...onnell-12-2-n1285389
The conversation is about halfway into the transcript. "And coming up, Donald Trump`s other -- the other big lie. That`s next." That's when O'Donnell sets it up. The time mark of [22:32:23] immediately follows that, in the transcript.
The asterisk (*) after "nearby"--where I said "nearby"--is because California's Alameda and Contra Costa counties are, in fact, nearby, from my geographic perspective. But nearby to anyone else that might be following this forum conversation at this point? That depends on their geographic perspective, whoever they may (or may not) be.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-12-2021).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 15, 08:55 PM
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Are you "bullish" on DOJ Special Counsel John Durham's investigation into the "oranges" (origins) of the Mueller investigation?
This could perk you up:
"Special Counsel John Durham expanding team, making 'excellent progress': source"
| quote | | Fox News has learned that Durham is adding prosecutors to his team |
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Brooke Singman and Jake Gibson for Fox News; December 14, 2020. https://www.foxnews.com/pol...m-adding-prosecutors
Oh wait--that Fox News report is from December 14, 2020, not December 14, 2021. A year and a day ago.
I actually didn't realize that until I got to this point and then went back and double-checked the date.
Talking Point Memo's Josh Kovensky just published his take on the Durham investigation, Kovensky's column seems to boil down to the age old question of "Where's the beef?"
"Sussing Out Durham’s Sussmann Case" Josh Kovensky for TalkingPointsMemo; December 15, 2021. Read-o-Meter 4 minutes 40 seconds. https://talkingpointsmemo.c...ictment-trump-russia
| quote | | Josh Kovensky is an investigative reporter for Talking Points Memo, based in New York. He previously worked for the Kyiv Post in Ukraine, covering politics, business, and corruption [in the Ukraine]. |
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Ankush Khardori seems not "bullish" but "borderline" on the Durham investigation.
| quote | I have no idea whether Sussmann or Danchenko [both indicted by John Durham] will ultimately be convicted (though I have serious doubts as to Sussmann), and I have no interest in defending the Steele dossier. For all I know, all of Durham’s various allegations and insinuations across both cases are correct. But it used to be widely recognized that the government’s allegations in a criminal case are just that, unless and until they are established at a trial, and that a healthy amount of skepticism is always a good idea, particularly when a prosecutor has been less than completely trustworthy.
The fervor among liberals and the media for the Mueller investigation seemed to diminish that sentiment. Durham may end up reviving it. |
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Ankush Khardori is a former federal prosecutor, now a D.C.-based lawyer (private sector) and a regular contributor to New York Magazine's Intelligencer, Politico and a slew of other well-known media venues. That was the end of his column from a few days ago for the Intelligencer:
"The Trials of John Durham" Ankush Khardori for New York Magazine Intelligencer; December 9, 2021. Read-o-Meter 5 minutes 30 seconds. https://nymag.com/intellige...-of-john-durham.html
National Review's Andrew C. McCarthy has also just weighed in with his thoughts:
"Is Durham’s Case on Clinton-Tied Lawyer Michael Sussmann Collapsing?"
| quote | | To put it mildly, this is going to be a very tough case for Durham. |
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Andrew C. McCarthy for National Review; December 11, 2021. Read-o-Meter 10 minutes. https://www.nationalreview....sussmann-collapsing/
So, three unwrapped Christmas gifts here for the "Durham-minded".
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randye
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DEC 15, 09:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Eric Swalwell
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Demorat Eric Swalwell has the IQ of a wooden doorknob.
Demorat Eric Swalwell likes to have sex with known Chinese Communist spy "Fang Fang"

Demorat Eric Swalwell likes to fart on live TV
Demorat Eric Swalwell and the Pennocks Purveyor Of Perjury have NO CREDIBILITY.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-15-2021).]
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