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williegoat
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FEB 25, 12:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
In 1970, 92% of 30 year olds earned more than their parents did at that age. Now, that number is below 50%.
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So, we are finally approaching income equality! All hale the great and wise Karl Marx!
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What has happened since then? The complete destruction of the lower and middle class
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“Complete Destruction” means that the lower and middle class no longer exist. The conclusion that can be drawn is that everyone is now upper class. Everyone is now rich. Income equality has been achieved! All hale the great and wise Karl Marx!
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by a drastic cutting of social safety nets
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Are you saying that the middle class depended on “social safety nets”? That money was intended for the disadvantaged. Is middle class disadvantaged? I am middle class, should I have taken some of that money?
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and cutting taxes on the rich resulting in a deteriorating infrastructure and government systems.
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Are you saying that tax revenue has decreased over the years? Or that we need the rich to support us? Why would you want help from someone that you so despise?
Now, let’s reexamine your first contention:
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In 1970, 92% of 30 year olds earned more than their parents did at that age. Now, that number is below 50%.
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and this one:
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Also, the world is not the same as it was when you grew up. Opportunities for advancement are nowhere near what they used to be.
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Are you saying that 50 years ago, America was a better place?
Maybe we should……
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Also, if socialist policies are so bad, why do we constantly give farmers massive amounts of government handouts?
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A socialist conundrum, if I ever heard one.
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FriendGregory
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FEB 25, 12:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:I don't get it, so you agree that Sweden is not a fully socialist country and its policies are not socialist? That has been my point. You have been the one accusing me of being socialist, not the other way around. I put "socialist" in quotes for a reason.
My ENTIRE POINT, has been that we need a balance.
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I absolutely agree, we need to tax the poor. I think we should be taxing the first dollar, even if just at 1%, everyone should have a dog in the fight.
Very humorous is that the writer found that she was being taxed at 102% and that is what would happen in high tax states like California if the Federal tax reached 87% for super high income earner. 100% plus income taxes then taxed on property they already "own"(do you ever really own real estate if you have to pay property tax?).
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FriendGregory
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FEB 25, 12:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:In 1970, 92% of 30 year olds earned more than their parents did at that age. Now, that number is below 50%.
What has happened since then? The complete destruction of the lower and middle class by a drastic cutting of social safety nets and cutting taxes on the rich resulting in a deteriorating infrastructure and government systems.
Putting people in the lower class does not encourage them to get out, that is not how human psychology works no matter how badly you want it to.
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Have you not heard, we live in a rich country and we should allow all persons of the world a chance to live here and have the exact same experience. Consider your numbers and then look at immigration by year.
https://www.albert.io/learn...-historic-migrations
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williegoat
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FEB 25, 01:15 PM
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It appears that threedog yearns for the days of Richard Nixon, back when they didn't bother to debate leftists, they just shot them in the street.
1970 wasn't all bad; great cars, great music and a little blond named Denise.[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 02-25-2019).]
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williegoat
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FEB 25, 07:06 PM
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Some young people seem to look back on the sixties with rose colored glasses. They dream that they are Abby Hoffman or Malcolm X. Those who were around back then, that is anyone who’s mailbox is littered almost daily with come-ons from the AARP, know better. Friends and family were sent half way around the world to fight something most did not really understand and those who were lucky enough to make it home found that the streets were literally on fire all across America.
Los Angeles, California, USA 1965 - LBJ's "Great Society"
This is not a video game. Think carefully. If you make the wrong decision, people will die.[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 02-26-2019).]
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Jake_Dragon
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FEB 25, 07:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
In 1970, 92% of 30 year olds earned more than their parents did at that age. Now, that number is below 50%.
What has happened since then? The complete destruction of the lower and middle class by a drastic cutting of social safety nets and cutting taxes on the rich resulting in a deteriorating infrastructure and government systems.
Putting people in the lower class does not encourage them to get out, that is not how human psychology works no matter how badly you want it to.
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Also, the world is not the same as it was when you grew up. Opportunities for advancement are nowhere near what they used to be.
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You don't think that's because if you had to swing a hammer or read a tape measure for a living you would die of starvation? When everyone had to have the latest gadget and wanted it dirt cheap they went off shore for it. When manufacturing left the states because they couldn't compete with China and Japan. Who by the way were not paying wages anything close to those in the states.
So now we have a service based economy that cant sustain itself.
We need to bring back manufacturing, stop telling our children that if they don't have an 8 year degree that they wont amount to anything and put pride back in our children for a job well done instead of rewarding everyone for participating.
Even if the country did socialize everything, the corruption and lack of manufacturing the US would collapse in less than 10 years. So perhaps when you hear that the world will end in 10 years they are not so off the mark.
Keep it up, put the government in charge of everything. Hell its not like we will all just stop working and get fat. Its not like we would just roll over the next time we are attacked.
As for mandated health care, well I have been paying the fine for the last 3 years. So no its not working for me.
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randye
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FEB 26, 12:10 AM
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"Treepup's" own words in this thread verify the wisdom of Winston
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randye
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FEB 26, 12:15 AM
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When is Threedog leaving?
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FEB 26, 11:02 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
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Sigh.
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FEB 26, 11:07 AM
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