The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart (Page 107/110)
Fats JAN 09, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

9-11 was external nuts being crazy
we can bomb them
who cares about the bystanders

1-6 was internal nuts
BUT
we can't bomb them
as the bystanders are us
so they are a far bigger threat then the mad arabs ever could be
likely far more of them also
with support ISIS never dreamed of
is it just our reichwing funders like the bro's K
or are world wide dark forces footing the bills
or maybe just a few like putin

I wonder how many here do at some level support the invaders on 1-6
if you do
do you care who pays the piper behind the curtains ?



https://www.newswars.com/ne...peaceful-protesters/

Invaders aren't invited in by the Police holding the doors open.
sourmash JAN 09, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:


You mean the Communists in the USSR that they originally worked with? Or do you mean the Communists in Japan that they worked with? Or perhaps the Communists in Germany that controlled the party hated themselves?

It's weird that they didn't get along so well, yet were a Communist country after the country was divided into East and West Germany. Did you never hear about the "Red Brown Alliance"?



Germany is still an occupied country.

Nope, never did hear of it. Not that I remember. That's interesting info.
I really don't know much on the topic aside from surface info, since it's considered a 3rd rail in internet discussion. People want to be triggered and stamp out discovery. Another set of people want to be belittling knowitall a-holes as if they were born knowing something on the topic and don't want to participate in sharing info.

What I was looking for was that the national socialists actually hated Bolshevik communism.

“Never forget that the rulers of present-day Russia are common blood-stained criminals; that they are the scum of humanity which, favoured by circumstances, overran a great state in a tragic hour, slaughtered out thousands of her leading intelligentsia in wild bloodlust, and now for almost ten years have been carrying on the most cruel and tyrannical regime of all time.

Furthermore, do not forget that these rulers belong to a race which combines, in a rare mixture, bestial cruelty and an inconceivable gift for lying, and which today more than ever is conscious of a mission to impose its bloody oppression on the whole world. Do not forget that the international Jew who completely dominates Russia today regards Germany not as an ally, but as a state destined to the same fate."

Trotsky's, Lenin's, Stalin's communism, Mao's communism aren't indicative of all communism.

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olejoedad JAN 09, 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

9-11 was external nuts being crazy
we can bomb them
who cares about the bystanders

1-6 was internal nuts
BUT
we can't bomb them
as the bystanders are us
so they are a far bigger threat then the mad arabs ever could be
likely far more of them also
with support ISIS never dreamed of
is it just our reichwing funders like the bro's K
or are world wide dark forces footing the bills
or maybe just a few like putin

I wonder how many here do at some level support the invaders on 1-6
if you do
do you care who pays the piper behind the curtains ?



"Who cares about the bystanders?"

Seriously?
rinselberg JAN 10, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:


Germany is still an occupied country.

Nope, never did hear of it. Not that I remember. That's interesting info.
I really don't know much on the topic aside from surface info, since it's considered a 3rd rail in internet discussion. People want to be triggered and stamp out discovery. Another set of people want to be belittling knowitall a-holes as if they were born knowing something on the topic and don't want to participate in sharing info.

What I was looking for was that the national socialists actually hated Bolshevik communism.

“Never forget that the rulers of present-day Russia are common blood-stained criminals; that they are the scum of humanity which, favoured by circumstances, overran a great state in a tragic hour, slaughtered out thousands of her leading intelligentsia in wild bloodlust, and now for almost ten years have been carrying on the most cruel and tyrannical regime of all time.

Furthermore, do not forget that these rulers belong to a race which combines, in a rare mixture, bestial cruelty and an inconceivable gift for lying, and which today more than ever is conscious of a mission to impose its bloody oppression on the whole world. Do not forget that the international Jew who completely dominates Russia today regards Germany not as an ally, but as a state destined to the same fate."


Trotsky's, Lenin's, Stalin's communism, Mao's communism aren't indicative of all communism.


A. Hitler; "Mein Kampf" (1924)

The text that sourmash posted is from Mein Kampf. The text that I highlighted in GREEN. So let's give credit where credit is due. It's not good forum manners (IMO) to replicate text or images from online sources or from other sources, without crediting those sources.

To be honest, I sometimes do not credit the sources for images. I think I've been very consistent in providing the sources for any text that I duplicate onto this forum.

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sourmash JAN 10, 12:44 AM
Doesn't matter what you think about posting the source. It's in quotes indicating it's a quote. Any klutz can copy and search to find the source.

Germany has been occupied since the 40s. Any choices made, politically, have been coloured by that occupation. Communists defeated and took part of Germany in WW2.
randye JAN 10, 01:43 AM


As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 650 individuals], (1.0 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (5.3 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 4 individuals, (0.6 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 165 individuals, (25 %) out of the 650 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges.

As of today only 165 individuals, (<0.03 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.03 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.02 %) out of the >60,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.


As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.

As of today the Leftist Congress is trying to soak the American taxpayers for HALF A BILLION DOLLARS in "damages" after telling the DOJ and the federal courts that the capitol building sustained $1.5 million in damages.

.............

Heretofore the Breaking News has used the figure of 30,000 as the size of the Trump rally on January 6, 2021. That figure was derived simply from the permit issued by the National Park Service days before the rally. No official estimate of the actual crowd size has ever been released since that event.
The 30,000 crowd size number has been increased to 60,000 based on the following:

“Rally organizers told the National Park Service that they anticipated 30,000 people would attend. Law enforcement said the crowd size ahead of the protest was possibly as much as 80,000, according to then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy.”


https://www.latimes.com/pol...rs-jan-6-anniversary

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theBDub JAN 10, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I think it's worth remarking that what had been kind of a moribund forum thread has just had such a growth spurt. "ray b" a man suddenly on fire. "Raydar." "jdv." "theBDub." "Fats." "Hudini" here. It's like this thread has suddenly morphed into Grand Central Station. I'm a little surprised that "Rickady88GT" hasn't checked in. Or "williegoat" although I think he's a bit weary of "Politics" right now.

I guess I'd have to scroll back through the last two or three pages to see if there was some particular inflection point. Some particular news report. Was it the news reports about the House Select Committee that's charged with investigating Jan. 6? Was it Biden's speech, in which he came out so loud and clear against the "Big LIe"..? Or, the one-year anniversary of Jan. 6?




One year anniversary, for me.

This forum is a great example of how social media echo chambers push people deeper and radicalize them. Sometimes I come here to see how deep they’ve gotten.
sourmash JAN 10, 02:41 PM

quote
Originally posted by ray b:

9-11 was external nuts being crazy
we can bomb them
who cares about the bystanders



You have swallowed and regurgitated the establishment narrative satisfactorily enough for the establishment to endorse your opinion. Good boy.


quote
1-6 was internal nuts
BUT
we can't bomb them
as the bystanders are us
so they are a far bigger threat then the mad arabs ever could be
likely far more of them also
with support ISIS never dreamed of
is it just our reichwing funders like the bro's K



The USA funds ISIS. Israel medically treated ISIS fighters injured in Syria attacking the Syrian people.
Again, you have satisfied the establishment well. Israel continues to attack Syria.


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or are world wide dark forces footing the bills
or maybe just a few like putin


Putin is an enemy of the USA, in part because he has prevented a US led overthrowing of Assad.


quote
I wonder how many here do at some level support the invaders on 1-6
if you do
do you care who pays the piper behind the curtains ?



Congress belongs to the people. The person murdered was unarmed, White and female. A Black man employed by our gov and having a history of reckless gun behavior murdered her.

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rinselberg JAN 10, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:
Congress belongs to the people. The person murdered was unarmed, White and female. A Black man employed by our gov and having a history of reckless gun behavior murdered her.


Demagoguery and race-baiting, side by side.

"the people" . . . what a meaningless and misused phrase, in this instance.

I wonder who expects to be looking in live on any of the prime time TV that seems to be in the offing. When the House Select Committee on Jan. 6 goes "live" with its hearings. PrimeTime Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. That's the latest that I've seen on that.

I'm sure I will see some of it, although I don't expect to see all of it.

ray b JAN 10, 04:32 PM
well window chic got herself shot IN A B&E
who why or what for is less important then yes she is dead jim

AND IN MOST NORMAL NON MIDDLE AGE WHITE GUY CRIMINALS CASES
THEY ALL GET CHARGED WITH MURDER WHEN THAT HAPPENS
one dead partner in crime EQUALS MURDER CHARGES FOR ALL INVOLVED

so yes the mega/maga morons are being treated with far less then the normal FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW

HARD TO SAY if the new normal or just this federal case

AS THERE IS A TREND TO LESS INCARCERATION NOW
and real needed as we do have far tooo many in prisons
but perhaps not near the numbers of middle aged white guys