The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart (Page 103/110)
ray b JAN 07, 09:55 PM
to quote st ron of raygun

YOU KNOW SO MUCH THAT IS NOT TRUE

while there are demo's in both BLM and the antifascist
they are not controlled by THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

if you do not understand the difference you likely support the rump
randye JAN 07, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

to quote st ron of raygun

YOU KNOW SO MUCH THAT IS NOT TRUE




THAT'S HILARIOUS!!!

I didn't think it was really possible but you have actually succeeded in proving that you are even dumber than we thought you are.

You're a Leftist who has literally demonstrated and PROVEN what Ronald Reagan actually said:



Is everything in your Leftist head as twisted, garbled and wrong as your laughable "quote"?

Do you really not understand who he was talking about?

Hint: Look in a mirror.

Seriously, I can't stop laughing at you....LOL

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theBDub JAN 08, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:



"Subpoenas for your testimony, MAGA World boys and girls. Or should I just say 'girl' ? From the House Congressional Committee investigating January 6."


"Deadly" or just "injurious", the narrative that the Capitol protest was an "insurrection" has not fallen apart in all quarters. Not yet. There is still a ways ahead for it to keep being news in the news or news-like media venues that most here (it would seem) remain blissfully unaware of. Where this is Breaking News.

"You're welcome."




Some updates on the subpoenas:

Trump is trying to claim executive privilege… even though he isn’t the sitting president.

The Justice Department is considering contempt charges against Mark Meadows, as recommended by the House after he refused to comply after initially complying. Meadows already turned over text messages of people pleading with President Trump to end the rally, and a PowerPoint detailing how the GOP could overturn the election.

Other GOP officials are refusing to comply with the subpoenas, as Michael Flynn attempts to block them.

I saw Randy’s comment about subpoena compliance in the Arizona election audit (which ended with no overturned election and the auditors themselves ignoring subpoenas, and now shutting down), and had to share.


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Originally posted by randye:

When someone, or some organization, intends to defy a court subpoena THAT is the kind of response they give.

The obvious question then arises; WHY would they want to hide the evidence under subpoena?




Why, indeed?
sourmash JAN 08, 09:55 AM
BLM and Antifa are deep fakes. They are sellout products of billionaires who use them to create chaos as a means to violently oppress the portion of society that poses a threat to the establishment (the middle class).

BLM is a product of the Democrat Party.
Antifa is a product of the Democrat Party.

BLM and Antifa are products of the D.C. establishment and statist media establishment.

They are the shock troops of the establishment and Democrat Party.

The leadership message at BLM and Antifa appeals to the criminal, anti-social impulses of lunatic people and presents the movement as anti-establishment as an excuse to destroy society and culture.

Trump presented an anti-establishment opposition. Both major parties hate him for a reason. BLM and Antifa hate him for the same reason.

BLM and Antifa are deep fakes.

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Fats JAN 08, 10:53 AM
Almost every time I start reading into the "news" articles on January 6th I really start wondering how long until we are at a full scale Civil War.

The Left is constantly making crap up, and then trying to destroy everyone that even remotely liked President Trump. They don't care about facts. They don't care about anything. They just want a war.

I don't want a war, but I'm ready for one. I'm really getting tired of the crap.
Fats JAN 08, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by ray b:

to quote st ron of raygun

YOU KNOW SO MUCH THAT IS NOT TRUE

while there are demo's in both BLM and the antifascist
they are not controlled by THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

if you do not understand the difference you likely support the rump



With Donations to BLM and Antifa going directly to the Democrat Party, you are still going to claim they are different entities? They are the same group using a different name. The one thing the Democrat Party does well is change the name of things to create confusion.

The Democrats were #Occupy
#Occupy is Antifa
Antifa is BLM

There are several "innocent" members in each group that don't see the big picture (perhaps you are one of them), but more understand the mission than not.

You don't understand that the Democrat Party is a terrorist organization, it has been since its beginning. You fought FOR slavery. You fought AGAINST Civil Rights. You fought to keep women from having a voice. Your party name "Democrat" represents something that is not the USA. We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic, we've been a Republic since the beginning.
sourmash JAN 08, 11:23 AM

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You fought FOR slavery. You fought AGAINST Civil Rights. You fought to keep women from having a voice. Your party name "Democrat" represents something that is not the USA. We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic, we've been a Republic since the beginning.



Black men had the vote long before White women. I'm ok.with that. Women are idiots. Men as lesser so, but still idiots.

The US government was pro slavery. New York City had slaves, slave stockades and slave auction houses just as the South. They just moved away from it sooner and decided to target other people who were still using it. The oldest synagogue in America is in Rhode Island because that was where they traded slaves and near where they imported them on their ships. Same as Charleston South Carolina.

Lee said he wouldnt be fighting a war if he thought it was about slavery.

We arent a republic if our elections are fraudulent. We arent a sovereign republic at all.
ray b JAN 08, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:


With Donations to BLM and Antifa going directly to the Democrat Party, you are still going to claim they are different entities? They are the same group using a different name. The one thing the Democrat Party does well is change the name of things to create confusion.

The Democrats were #Occupy
#Occupy is Antifa
Antifa is BLM

There are several "innocent" members in each group that don't see the big picture (perhaps you are one of them), but more understand the mission than not.

You don't understand that the Democrat Party is a terrorist organization, it has been since its beginning. You fought FOR slavery. You fought AGAINST Civil Rights. You fought to keep women from having a voice. Your party name "Democrat" represents something that is not the USA. We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic, we've been a Republic since the beginning.



NO
where do you get this misinformed but so sure of the lies you have been told ?
the guys who did fight for slavery ARE DEAD
AND WERE 100% CON'S NOT LIBERALS
now the civil right era I was in the Gop AUH2O IN 64
THE RACISTS DID JOIN AND i QUIT LATER
AND THE SKINNY CLASS B WITCH WAS A GOP GIRL PHILLIS WHO LEAD THE ANTI ERA WITCHES

SO NO YO ARE WRONG

sight nod for pattern recondition yes many in the OCCUPY and anti fascists and the same guys on a different day
the leadership AIN'T THE SAME NOR ARE THE DEMOCRATS LEADERSHIP CONTROLLING THEM
BLM tend to be a bit different

but as a CON you do tend to be totally and hopelessly CONFUSED
I SUGGEST MORE RESEARCH AND LESS REPETITION OF REICHWING BS

AKA check before you post BS
LIKE THIS
https://apnews.com/article/...-checking-9043930562
rinselberg JAN 08, 05:04 PM

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the entire summer [2020] of Antifa and BLM riots, murder, arson, maiming, attacks on U.S. Federal buildings and BILLIONS of dollars in private property destruction



A RED HERRING

That could well have a place in a different kind of discussion. In this discussion, it's a red herring. Central to this discussion: the undeniable legitimacy of the national elections of the Democratic Party candidates Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, which resolved America's choice for President and Vice President in the wake of the homicides and murders, violently inflicted personal injuries, looting, arson and other property destruction in Minneapolis, Portland and elsewhere—and in the wake of everything else that was 2020.


PROLOGUE TO A RIOT

By "Jan. 6", the various groups and lawyers that tried to challenge the elections on behalf of the Trump-Pence candidacy had already exhausted all of their legal options in terms of recounts and judicial interventions.

Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger had already (and famously) told Trump to "go pound sand" in a telephone conversation that may yet become part of a criminal indictment against Trump by the Fulton County District Attorney, Fani Willis.

On December 11, a lawsuit from Texas AG Ken Paxton, set up to challenge the Biden-Harris electoral college victories in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court in a brief and dismissive ruling that started with the well known legal dictum "Vade quatio harena."

This, just to highlight two of the many instances, during the time from November 4 (the day after Election Day) until January 6 or "Capitol Riot Day", when challenges to the election results on behalf of the Trump-Pence candidacy were dismissed on their face or otherwise found wanting for evidence by judges, or by office holders with elections-related responsibilities.


THE GREEN BAY SWEEP

"Ex-Trump aide Peter Navarro says 100 House members were 'ready' to carry out election coup"

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Coup plot called "a well thought-out plan based on sound, constitutional law and existing legislative precedent"


They called it the "Green Bay Sweep."

Jon Skolnik for Salon; January 4, 2021.
https://www.salon.com/2022/...y-to-carry-out-coup/




This is something I started. A "super-sized" Reply message. I want to put it up here, like the first episode of a serial publication, instead of waiting until I complete it by filling out the rest of my outline, because I'm not sure I will fill out the rest of my outline.

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sourmash JAN 08, 07:05 PM
Antifa and BLM are totally tools of the establishment and statist mainstream media.

As are there protectors in major city mayor's offices, DA's offices and the police chiefs.

Total.establiahment, Democrat tools. Beyond even questioning.

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