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randye NOV 06, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

.....the Mueller investigation will be remembered for countless years to come.





ONLY BY YOU.

Normal, rational, people don't obsess about it and have moved on.

Robert Mueller doesn't even remember it, but then he didn't even know that "he" was doing it at the time.
Rickady88GT NOV 06, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

the Mueller investigation will be remembered for countless years to come.




I think you are correct Rinselberg. This "investigation" will be studied as "how to NOT do investigations" for years to come. The FBI knew a year before the "investigation" even started that the source was a fraud. In fact, the FBI knew that the primary source of the investigation was a fraud at the time of the second secret warrant. This "investigation" will be remembered as a purely political assassination attempt of a President of the United States of America. This "investigation" will be studied by future "journalists" as a massive deception to poison the minds of voters before an election. Tapping into a sad, primal and evil corner of the human mind,.........the definition of political propaganda.
rinselberg NOV 06, 09:50 PM

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WASHINGTON — Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016, the F.B.I. dispatched a pair of agents to London on a mission so secretive that all but a handful of officials were kept in the dark.

Their assignment, which has not been previously reported, was to meet the Australian ambassador, who had evidence that one of Donald J. Trump’s advisers knew in advance about Russian election meddling. After tense deliberations between Washington and Canberra, top Australian officials broke with diplomatic protocol and allowed the ambassador, Alexander Downer, to sit for an F.B.I. interview to describe his meeting with the campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos.

The agents summarized their highly unusual interview and sent word to Washington on Aug. 2, 2016, two days after the investigation was opened. Their report helped provide the foundation for a case that, a year ago Thursday, became the special counsel investigation. But at the time, a small group of F.B.I. officials knew it by its code name: Crossfire Hurricane. . . .

"Code Name Crossfire Hurricane: The Secret Origins of the Trump Investigation"
Matt Apuzzo, Adam Goldman and Nicholas Fandos for the New York Times; May 16, 2018.
https://www.nytimes.com/201...r-investigation.html

That wasn't the Steele dossier. That was a Trump campaign staffer, George Papadopoulos, whose lips were loosened in London by too many libations containing alcohol.

There would be lots of media buzz about the Steele dossier, starting about six months after the beginning of the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation, but I don't see that the Steele dossier was crucial to either the "oranges" (origins) or the eventual outcomes of the Mueller investigation.

Whether I continue to see it this way--well, that remains to be--seen.

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randye NOV 06, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:


I think you are correct Rinselberg. This "investigation" will be studied as "how to NOT do investigations" for years to come. The FBI knew a year before the "investigation" even started that the source was a fraud. In fact, the FBI knew that the primary source of the investigation was a fraud at the time of the second secret warrant. This "investigation" will be remembered as a purely political assassination attempt of a President of the United States of America. This "investigation" will be studied by future "journalists" as a massive deception to poison the minds of voters before an election. Tapping into a sad, primal and evil corner of the human mind,.........the definition of political propaganda.



Conversely, the DURHAM INVESTIGATION (that the Pennocks Purveyor of Perjury wants to deflect from), and the resulting indictments so far and the information and evidence that it has revealed, THAT THE "MUELLER PROBE" COMPLETELY AND PURPOSELY IGNORED will stand as testament to my enduring quote:

"THE TRUTH EVENTUALLY COMES OUT AND IT IS NEVER WHAT THE LEFTIST MEDIA, (or Leftist "probes" and "reports"), ORIGINALLY TOLD YOU"

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randye NOV 06, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

WASHINGTON — Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016, the F.B.I. dispatched a pair of agents to London on a mission so secretive that all but a handful of officials were kept in the dark.




The "LEAD AGENT" on that particular little political hit job junket was none other than DISGRACED LIAR and FIRED FBI agent PETER STRZOK

Just another one of the Leftist LIARS, PERVERTS and MORONS that you continually and unquestioningly hold out as your "authoritative sources"

Public masturbators and disgraced FBI liars. You sure know how to pick em'.

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maryjane NOV 06, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by randye:


The "LEAD AGENT" on that particular little political hit job junket was none other than DISGRACED LIAR and FIRED FBI agent PETER STRZOK

Just another one of the Leftist LIARS, PERVERTS and MORONS that you continually and unquestioningly hold out as your "authoritative sources"

I've asked many times before but I'll repeat it:

Have you ever ONCE stopped to consider that the stupid things that you think and believe are due to the stupid people and sources that you get your opinions and ideas from?



Who are you talking to..asking the question to?
randye NOV 07, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Who are you talking to..asking the question to?




Fixed....and edited for brevity.
rinselberg NOV 07, 05:22 PM
I was scrolling hurriedly through some of the remarks on this page and I saw a reference to the notorious and disgraced--partially disgraced, IMO--Peter Strzok.

I caught some of Strzok's testimony before one of the Congressional committees. This was after he'd been removed from the Mueller investigation, if memory serves me. This was the day when Louie Gohmert (needs no introduction) tried to castigate Peter Strzok over Strzok's affair with the other FBI agent, Lisa Page, and Mr Strzok's infidelity to Mrs Strzok in this matter.

I don't think that Louie Gohmert came off well in that exchange. It seemed like a "holier than thou" kind of moment. I didn't perceive Louie Gohmet as having even an iota of sincerity in that exchange. I'll take Peter Strzok over Louie Gohmert any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

I didn't sit down to view that hearing from end to end, but I caught quite a bit of it, if memory serves me. (Is that a texting acronym? IMSM?)

What I saw and heard does not make me think all that badly of Peter Strzok. I don't think he screwed up the Mueller investigation, or took it off course, either by any nefarious design, or even just by not being fully on top of his game as an FBI agent tasked with having a major role in the Mueller investigation. That didn't happen, IMO.

It's my impression that when Mueller removed Strzok from the case, he (Mueller) also assembled his entire group of Special Counsel's Office investigators and prosecutors and supervised a thorough review of Strzok's body of work on the case, going all the way back to the first day that Strzok was on the case. Like a forensic audit.

I have a "vision" of Mueller assembling the entire group and saying (in so many words) "We need to review everything in our investigation that has Strzok's 'fingerprints' on it. We need to review all of the assessments and decisions that are on record from Strzok and all of the interviews that Strzok was involved in--including Strzok's interview of Mike Flynn--and look for any 'red flags' that would suggest or reveal that Strzok has not been 'playing it straight', in between his texting 'orgies' with Lisa Page."

I think there was such an internal Mueller-led review or forensic audit or "autopsy" of Strzok's role in the investigation and no "red flags" were uncovered that would discredit Strzok's work on the case.

Does anyone have more specific information about this? Something about this from the media, or from a book or a book review?

Strzok it to me.

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rinselberg NOV 08, 10:54 PM
A university professor emeritus (Political Science) hints that the Steele dossier was central to "he most ambitious dirty trick pulled in an American election and its aftermath."

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Last week, John Durham’s grand jury issued its third criminal indictment in the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. The person who was arrested may be obscure; the news may have been buried after Virginia’s bombshell election results; but Durham’s move is a big deal. It shows that the special counsel’s probe is methodically unraveling a huge conspiracy, seemingly engineered by Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign and implicating James Comey’s FBI, either as a willing participant or as utterly incompetent boobs [sic].


Where do you see commentary like this online?

At RealClearPolitics.

Read-o-Metering at a comparatively svelte 8 minutes--almost 8 minutes--this article is sure to bring a smile to the face of anyone--well, you can figure that out in less than a "New York Minute."

"John Durham Is Getting Close to the Jugular"
Charles Lipson for RealClearPolitics; November 8, 2021.
https://www.realclearpoliti..._jugular_146702.html

Who is credited with writing this article?

That would be none other than Charles Lipson,the Peter B. Ritzma Professor of Political Science Emeritus at the University of Chicago. Doctor Lipson "I presume" founded the Program on International Politics, Economics, and Security.

You can email Professor Lipson with your hearty congratulations on this article, or any other thoughts, at <charles.lipson@gmail.com>.

I think "Doc" Lipson is making way too much of the Steele dossier, which I've said wasn't that important to the Mueller investigation, but as the (old) proverb goes, "different Strzoks for different folks."

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randye NOV 09, 12:04 AM
IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO START CHANTING "LOCK HER UP" AGAIN


https://redstate.com/bonchi...LTBBmT33Wh0EGqr_aLjE

When it became apparent they had been lied to, as Durham now has proven, they didn’t move to discredit Steele but kept the scam going all through the Robert Mueller investigation.


Senile old "Bumblin' Bob" Mueller is back to taking his long naps and eating his applesauce during his retirement at Wilmer-Hale.

LONG LIVE THE DURHAM INVESTIGATION