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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 18, 09:58 AM
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theogre
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DEC 18, 02:00 PM
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This ruling will be appeal to higher court(s) so don't count on it meaning anything in the end. ------------------
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)
The Ogre's Fiero Cave
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williegoat
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DEC 18, 02:13 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out which one isn't a crossdresser.
 
 
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maryjane
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DEC 18, 02:30 PM
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The only source of appeal left in UK is the 12 judge panel making up SCOTUK.
The ruling only means the same as the US 1st amendment does. "Free speech" is only enforceable if it is effected/enforceable by members of govt or it's agencies. Any internet board or paper media can still put it's own rules into effect as the owner of that media sees fit.
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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 18, 02:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
The only source of appeal left in UK is the 12 judge panel making up SCOTUK.
The ruling only means the same as the US 1st amendment does. "Free speech" is only enforceable if it is effected/enforceable by members of govt or it's agencies. Any internet board or paper media can still put it's own rules into effect as the owner of that media sees fit. |
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Thats the most important part. It means the Brits can no longer be arrested and jailed for refusing political-correctness and woke culture.
"Private" rules ??? Cancel culture works both ways. I suspect the woke in England are about to get a BIG lesson in that. We used to call them boycotts.
I dont know for sure about the US or GB, but here another not uncommon factor is business licensing. Want to run a business, then to get and maintain the license you must meet and uphold certain standards. If the individual jurisdictions in England choose to make "free speech" part of that standards, then the private owners choices are uphold free speech or choose another source of income.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 12-18-2020).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 18, 03:16 PM
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Both of those judges look comic, but who wouldn't in that kind of official or ceremonial garb?
When I saw the one judge named as "Lord Justice Bean" I was thinking that article is satie (think "The Onion") and that I was looking at Rowan Atkinson in his "Mr Bean" character. The other judge--I couldn't put a name to him--but I thought that must be another actor known for comedic roles. He also resembles MSNBC's Ari Melber, but less than one percent of Americans regard Ari Melber that way. (The other 99+ percent recognizing neither the face or the name.)
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maryjane
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DEC 18, 04:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Thats the most important part. It means the Brits can no longer be arrested and jailed for refusing political-correctness and woke culture.
"Private" rules ??? Cancel culture works both ways. I suspect the woke in England are about to get a BIG lesson in that. We used to call them boycotts.
I dont know for sure about the US or GB, but here another not uncommon factor is business licensing. Want to run a business, then to get and maintain the license you must meet and uphold certain standards. If the individual jurisdictions in England choose to make "free speech" part of that standards, then the private owners choices are uphold free speech or choose another source of income.
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The number of times your suspicions proved correct are few and far between.
Most of the UK is far far more focused on BREXIT and Covid than on what some tabloid has reported. This is old news.
US courts long ago ruled basically the same thing unless it (speech) is intended, and likely to produce, "imminent lawless action." . Brandenberg v. Ohio
Rulings such as this tho, do not mean someone can't/won't sue (and often do prevail) in civil court. Nor do they mean people can't be kicked off internet media for offensive language or for advocating violence against others.
Choices have consequences.
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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 18, 09:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
or for advocating violence against others
Choices have consequences.
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Yeh, well...
Some (a lot actually) of the hairless ape species are simply too stupid to understand the word "no" and want to keep on yappin, louder and louder, thinking they are in charge and you are going to say/think/do/believe what THEY decide.
They just aren't smart enough to shut-the-hell up and go away on their own until Lucy shows up and says "Go ahead, one more word".
This is Lucy. She is VERY good at making crack-heads shut the hell up and go away. In fact, she had a 3 1/2 year career at it in close quarters. Mostly because hairless apes in blue clown-suits were too lazy to do the job they were paid to do. So Lucy volunteered instead. WWHAT a girl !!
 [This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 12-18-2020).]
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williegoat
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DEC 18, 09:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Yeh, well...
Some (a lot actually) of the hairless ape species are simply too stupid to understand the word "no" and want to keep on yappin, louder and louder, thinking they are in charge and you are going to say/think/do/believe what THEY decide.
They just aren't smart enough to shut-the-hell up and go away on their own until Lucy shows up and says "Go ahead, one more word".
This is Lucy. She is VERY good at making crack-heads shut the hell up and go away. In fact, she had a 3 1/2 year career at it in close quarters. Mostly because hairless apes in blue clown-suits were too lazy to do the job they were paid to do. So Lucy volunteered instead. WWHAT a girl !!
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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 18, 10:17 PM
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Maybe in the US dopers carry guns...Here they carry cops, social workers and human rights complaint forms.
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