Attack on my software forum - reason PFF was closed for a while (Page 9/19)
RWDPLZ FEB 08, 08:01 PM
The IP traces to Toledo, OH. There is ONE P********** in Toledo, but his name is Robert, maybe his father or a relative?

I DID find an old site with his Fiero on it though:



A Fiero, owned by one Randy P**********, in Toledo Ohio. Coincidence? Probably not.
wriott FEB 08, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by ohioindy:


Shoot me an address...
I'm up for a road trip



me tooooo i on my way to Mansfield in the morning...
jack_ink FEB 08, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

Thanks to everyone who has shown their support so far.

Like I said, I'm dead serious about persuing this. And I will not pretend I can do this alone and that's why I call in the help of anyone reading this.

As I understand so far from the people who have been emailing me, I have a very good legal case against the persons responsible for this. Even though there was no hacking involved, I can sue for "defamation of character" and "punitive damages".

But first things first. I already have backups from my logs which clearly shows the ip addresses of the people who did this. Next step is to get the ISP's to give up (parts) of their logs and to make them confirm the identity of the poster. I've already mailed "Oklohoma State University" but I'd rather have it someone would call them. My english is good, but perhaps it would be better if a true english speaking person calls them. Now before half the forum starts calling them, let's first pick a person who wants to give them a call - explain what has happened and how I need to proceed from here.

Or maybe someone else has any ideas how to proceed from here? Do I need to find a lawyer first? Or should I first concentrate on getting the "proof"?



Sorry if this is out of line as I didnt read all 3 pages of this post yet

but I have an uncle there at the univeristy you are needing contacted and he is a Coach, I also have 2 cousins that are students there and I attened not too many years back for a semester... I would gladly help you contact or get the email addresses and confirmations you need, also I believe I know Aaron in an odd sort of way... and have seen his face a few times before in person not to mention I think this may be him as well [link]http://milehighfieros.8.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=3[/link] no offense to mile high and no offense to any likenesses represented etc etc legal mumbo jumbo just scroll down and check a face shot on him and the shirt says it all "that boy aint right" if it is indeed him...

and cliff I check this site more than my myspace and more than my yahoo so if you need me to go down there or make a phone call PM me here
Oreif FEB 08, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by fierobear:

All by people who like RFT. Whatever.




As a person who does not respect RFT because of a few of their immature members, I do not see how RFT as a website can be held responsible in the attack on Cliff's business forum.

It has already been confirmed in the original post by Cliff who actually did the attack. If others were involved in the planning of it there is no "proof" yet.
Aaron has already implicated himself and 3 others, which is pretty foolish because the log itself has him admit it was done with malicious intent.

But at present only those who's IP addresses have been logged as doing the actual attack are the ones who can be held accountable.

fierobear FEB 08, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Oreif:
But at present only those who's IP addresses have been logged as doing the actual attack are the ones who can be held accountable.



That's fine. Early on, it had the appearance that something might have originated from RFT. If not, that's fine. I just hope that whoever is responsible get what they deserve.

As for the rest of it, I'm just sick of reading these guys posts, here on PFF, talking about how great RFT is, and that we should all go over there. No freakin' thanks.

84fierotrevor FEB 08, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by fierobear:


That's fine. Early on, it had the appearance that something might have originated from RFT. If not, that's fine. I just hope that whoever is responsible get what they deserve.

As for the rest of it, I'm just sick of reading these guys posts, here on PFF, talking about how great RFT is, and that we should all go over there. No freakin' thanks.



where at early on, did it look like real fiero tech, andall of its moderators where all at fault and should be sued? YOU where the only one to say that. and it NEVER looked like that.

no one said how great rft was, or how anyone should go over there, we just said u shouldnt sue everyone on rft. and it isnt rft's fault. it was 4 individuals.

good job making stuff up tho and saying we said it, to try and gracegully get out of the argument.

but please ...continue on with ur telling me and other people what not to post about (RFT), where to post at. and what horrible a human bean i am for posting there. even tho I was in no way "like many other rft members" related to the unfortunite events caused by 3-4 stupid idiots.

CoryFiero FEB 08, 08:49 PM
Aaron was even banned from RFT. Please FieroBear stop with this.
moleman_in_a_FieroGT FEB 08, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by CoryFiero:

Aaron was even banned from RFT. Please FieroBear stop with this.



He brings a good point. What those 4 individuals did was very immature and stupid. Arguing about these things, especially in this thread, is not much more mature...
jstricker FEB 08, 09:08 PM
He was? When?

He posted yesterday evening:


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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject:

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Hmm. I'm still alive

On a more honest note..
-Made Eagle Scout
-On track to get a good degree
-Did the 3.4l DOHC swap in my Fiero.

Someday..
-Get onto the police department of my dreams.
-Do a far more complex swap/build on a car.




That aside, Cliff, you have my email, let me know when you get the PP account set up.

John Stricker

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Originally posted by CoryFiero:

Aaron was even banned from RFT. Please FieroBear stop with this.



CoryFiero FEB 08, 09:12 PM
It was an "IP ban" all he had to do was use a different computer. Or maybe even wait a few days. The point is RFT banned him. You won't find anyone on that forum who liked him (execept Falcon4).