The Rottin Resurrection (Page 4/70)
jetsnvettes2000 JUL 23, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

I will not turn this into a circus. But, I just want to say that the "satisfied customers" need to pull a panel or two on their cars.

I am too far away to help out physically, but my offer stands guys.



I was just about to add Since it was already asked by Blackthundergt, I would for sure get the body off asap and get a ruler and get going on it. after seeing this hack job those other cars may be really unsafe. As John asked me would I put my daughters in this car My answer is HELL FREAKING NO! this thing is ready to fold up. Guys who had work done take out your wheel well liners and look at the back of all your panels also if you have any cracking or in this cars case crap just falling off.
av8fiero JUL 23, 12:08 AM
Tonight after work I went to Rob's to check out the RottinChop and help tear it down to the bare chassis.

NOT GOOD. Poor welds, cuts, holes, and bends in the roof structure and chassis that have turned a near perfect rust free car into a serious threat to all Flexi-Fliers with it's ability to twist itself. The only part we coud be sure was square was the rear hoop around the rear glass, every other part had some serious issue we couldn't be sure of it's integrity. Dash installed with aluminum tape as the only fastener and so high you could hardly see out of it, BUT it was easy to remove! [lol, but really not funny, sorry Johnny] The front end body work was a pure mess as well as the rear decklid and taillight panel. Ready for paint? HA! When did USPS shipping boxes become a proper body component?

ITS A SERIOUS MESS! Rob will be getting the pics up soon if he hasn't done so already so everyone can see the quality of work that came out of that shop. I would be concerned if I had a car previously completed from this place, if you do, I would go over it with a fine tooth comb, make sure you check for cardboard and aluminum tape! It may look pretty on the outside, but I'd be worried about the inside. The only parts nice on the car are the rear fender hips, rear bumper, the upper halves of the door panels, and the tip up doors, which I think are the only parts not fabricated in that shop.

The condition is quite unfortunate, Johnny has some decisions to make as to how this project shall proceed, but he WILL get a PROPERLY completed chopper from THE FOX VALLEY BOYS

Edited to add: John check this thread
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...120111-1-076477.html
unsure of present condition but may be viable, and it too would be deserving

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LEEEZARD JUL 23, 01:42 AM
JOHN, very sorry for your loss. keep your chin up tho. I sold my mera project shell last wk or I would donate it to the cause for you. happy motoring.

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Carcenomy JUL 23, 02:04 AM
I feel physically ill.

Good luck to you dudes, eagerly watching to see how it comes together when some passionate chaps congregate for the greater good.

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johnyrottin JUL 23, 07:45 AM
I took last night to process. it is gutting that a completely rust free very nice 88GT was ruined while a guy took someone's hard earned cash and produced this junk. I can dwell on the negative and live miserably or I can press on knowing there a good people out there and be a happy guy. I choose that latter. in that spirit here is a current status of the Rottinchop:



Yes, it is headed to the scrap heap. Sad but true. Now on to the good news that comes from the bad news. Choptop #19 is sitting outside Archie's shop. No more. It will head to the Fox Valley boys. So they get to start with an Archie quality chop. Now the boys instead of starting with a car made from this:



and this



They get to start with this:



Yes that is Will's old Formula. So in a way I am finishing it for both of us. Archie is also going to check his storage to see if he has a GT body left. Couldn't do this withoiut Archie!!!

With these ACE Aviator rims:



These Archie doors:





Hopefully turning this engine:



Into something like this:



We will try to use these hips:



And hopefully this rear bumper



These coilovers



These brakes



And some other bits and bobs that will pop up as we go along.

I refuse to let one bad person that weaseled his way into our community set the tone we have with each other and the vendors we embrace. I will maintain a positive outlook and empower the good folks we have working together to make this happen. This is somewhat where we are moving towards:

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jetsnvettes2000 JUL 23, 08:12 AM
LOL on the shipping box! yup folks that's right the so called side scoops were made of that very box! John is that the engine from the add? My phone does not let me post to the thread as I am headed to work and off my pc but I will check this later on. I am going to remove as much as I can that can be saved from this one.
ITALGT JUL 23, 09:56 AM


John, I am so glad to see this "lemon" situation start to turn into "lemonade" for you. What's happening now is truly a testament to the vast majority of the Fiero community, and it's very humbling to see. I remember a couple of years ago when I blew my tranny at the drag strip, you offered MULTIPLE TIMES to help get my Fiero back on the road... and although I never took you up on the offer, your willingness to help out a complete stranger really says it all.

Kudos to Archie for helping out too.

I wish you the best of luck with the resurrection... if you ever make it down around Cocoa Florida, first round is on me.
FieroMaster88 JUL 23, 10:14 AM
Those pictures of the "work" done make me sick. I am sorry your car was ruined but happy things are going to work out in the end.
Pete Matos JUL 23, 10:40 AM
Ya know guys, I am SO GLAD to hear that you are still moving forward with this build despite the damage to the car. What I don't understand is that is the top is indeed that bad, why can't you just cut it off and start over with a new top? I mean surely it would be easier and cheaper to start over that way then to start from scratch with a complete other vehicle> I am assuming you are having to purchase the other car here. Looking at the pictures of the choptop welds and cuts yeah it looks terrible and the pressure applied to the roof in the center like that obviously compromised the roofs integrity but how hard would it be to just level up the frame and take some squaring meaurements/weld in some braces and just break out the sawzall on the top and start over. Seems a shame to throw away a decent body 88GT if all that is damaged is the bodywork and the roofline. You guys are there looking at it and I am of course not so I bow to your experience, of course one fellow there has already done his own choptop himself so that is one more than I have ever done too. I have however done some extensive surgery to the body of a fiero before and tig welded it back together when it was pretty much a loss so maybe I just hate to give up on a Fiero somehow. Either way good luck with it and I wish you were closer I would love to be of assistance. Peace

Pete

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"May the grins begin when you turn the key and hear the engine roar over your shoulder" ......Gall57 (slightly modified LOL)

carbon JUL 23, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by johnyrottin:

Yes, it is headed to the scrap heap. Sad but true. Now on to the good news that comes from the bad news. Choptop #19 is sitting outside Archie's shop. No more. It will head to the Fox Valley boys. So they get to start with an Archie quality chop.



Dang, you move fast! Awesome update.

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