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NYRED85GT MAY 09, 08:44 PM
Hello everyone. Over the past few weeks I have been having a lot of fun fixing frame rust, stripping the rear end down, and built some coil-overs. I have about 90 pictures that show how to make coil overs, removing the rear clip, fixing the upper frame rails, and some interior pics.
Webshots pictures: http://community.webshots.com/user/NYRED85GT
Youtube movie: http://www.youtube.com/NYRED85GT

If anyone need explanations or more pictures let me know and I will take some. Enjoy!

Mike
fieroluv MAY 09, 09:08 PM
first off welcome to the forum.

That is some nice work there. Did you just weld sheet metal for the upper frame rails? I have been considering the same thing. Although mine isn't anywhere near as bad as yours were. I was considering doing RubyRed Fiero's technique, but thought that my frame rails weren't gone enough for his write up.

in case you haven't seen it.

upper frame rails
Trunk Corners
Lewis87GT MAY 09, 10:18 PM
Thanks for posting these pictures of your teardown of your fiero. I'm contemplating doing the same to my recently purchased '87 GT. I've known about the rust on my car, just been hesitant to take her apart and see everything. I've never done anything like this, so I like viewing your progress.

I think I'll start mine this weekend.
NYRED85GT MAY 10, 11:14 AM
The upper frame rail I used 2"x2"x .120 inch thick square tube. Original thickness was .080 I believe. The sheet metal between the upper and lower frame rails is 16 gauge. I think the original was 22 gauge maybe? Go here for the upper frame rail blueprints: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...060811-2-068409.html
My Fiero was stored for about a year after I bought it (was in the sand box a few weeks after I purchased it). I towed it home earlier this year, and using this forum, tore and cut it all apart. Now it is stronger than ever with thicker metal that is seam welded instead of spot welds. I have to do the rocker panels (metal square tube is on the way) and a days work on the front for rust repair. After that I am dropping the cradle to junk the engine, get rid of the rust on the cradle, and completely re-build the suspension. So in the next 3 weeks I will have more pictures to post.
If anyone is thinking about doing their frame rails it isn't that hard really. Just time consuming for the first timer (me) and lots of measuring before cutting. Get some cardboard to use as templates so you don't mess up any sheet metal.

Mike

[This message has been edited by NYRED85GT (edited 05-10-2007).]

NYRED85GT MAY 19, 09:43 PM
Step 1 is to find the rust:
http://rides.webshots.com/p...10700101038432bmyOYk
http://rides.webshots.com/p...15110101038432HcEJgo
http://rides.webshots.com/p...34320101038432QwHWTc
http://rides.webshots.com/p...39730101038432QNhhfe
http://rides.webshots.com/p...17260101038432yAScfT
http://rides.webshots.com/p...66800101038432XmlCRL

Then cut it out:
http://rides.webshots.com/p...03190101038432yeCGyS
http://rides.webshots.com/p...66760101038432iBlOqo
http://rides.webshots.com/p...63670101038432rXgHfw

Weld in new rails and sheet metal:
http://rides.webshots.com/p...41990101038432sYvPQy
http://rides.webshots.com/p...07800101038432wZtzIf
http://rides.webshots.com/p...87600101038432PFUwRV

Drop the cradle and cut the trunk for mods later:
http://rides.webshots.com/p...94990101038432YgLUbb
http://rides.webshots.com/p...99890101038432UdJaeW

Cut out rusted rocker and replace with 2"x2"x.065"thick square tube:
http://rides.webshots.com/p...18410101038432wvuRRj
http://rides.webshots.com/p...92270101038432IHxHNO
http://rides.webshots.com/p...33510101038432iXAGtj
http://rides.webshots.com/p...12380101038432ckNPDE

I started welding in the new passenger rocker tonight. Later this week I will do the drivers side. Then move on to removing the engine and trans. from the cradle so I can do a complete performance rebuild on the suspension and brakes.

[This message has been edited by NYRED85GT (edited 05-20-2007).]

randye MAY 20, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by NYRED85GT:

Step 1 is to find the rust:



DEAR GOD! Was that car submerged in salt water?
Very admirable work and nice photos. I'm just personaly happy to not have to do that sort of work!

Nurb432 MAY 20, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by NYRED85GT:

Hello everyone. Over the past few weeks I have been having a lot of fun fixing frame rust, stripping the rear end down, and built some coil-overs. I have about 90 pictures that show how to make coil overs, removing the rear clip, fixing the upper frame rails, and some interior pics.
Webshots pictures: http://community.webshots.com/user/NYRED85GT
Youtube movie: http://www.youtube.com/NYRED85GT

If anyone need explanations or more pictures let me know and I will take some. Enjoy!

Mike



That rear clip removal series is cool, ill have to save that for next year when i take mine off for painting/repair so i dont forget a bolt.

NYRED85GT MAY 20, 03:46 PM
I don't think it was in salt water hehe. But the car has lived in the North-East its whole life. I figure if I find a 86 or 87 GT in better shape I will transfer everything (several thousand dollars in parts) to the better car. I have never done anything like this before so it has been fun learning. And I want to show others who might be too intimidated to fix their car and let the rust keep getting worse. The worst part is the rocker panels and rear clip hide everything. So without a very through inspection (removing rivets) people do not know. And especially those who want to do engine swaps. The first thing should be safety (fix rust,upgrade brakes,upgrade suspension) and then more HP. I just need to find a 3.4 DOHC car in Western NY I can strip down for cheap....
NYRED85GT MAY 29, 11:22 PM
More updates!

Here is how I removed the strut parts to use on the new coil-overs:
http://rides.webshots.com/p...44420101038432HSWpqI
http://rides.webshots.com/p...92010101038432RqVGly

Pictures on how I separated the cradle from the engine and transmission:
http://rides.webshots.com/a...41dFvDON?vhost=rides

And finally a crappy video I made of removing the rubber bushings. In the bottom right of the video there is a "full screen" button that makes it a little easier to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA_5KPNeXFA

Tomorrow I have to pressure wash the cradle after work. Than I have to wire brush, prime, and paint the control arms, cradle, and steering knuckles.
NYRED85GT JUN 03, 09:36 PM
Does this look correct?