JohnWPB 1986 GT Fastback worklog (Page 48/71)
JohnWPB JAN 01, 08:22 PM
Happy New Year Everyone!

Small update to keep this thread out of the archives:

I covered the car back in April of last year, and have not touched it since. I have decided to do a 3800 swap on it, as I will not put another penny into that engine in the hopes that it will eventually run someday. With as much time, effort, money and such put into this car, I decided not to abandon it all.

I am actively seeking a 3800 and parts to complete it. I have a potential engine and harness in Alabama, but am waiting to hear back from the person. Correspondence was good at the beginning, and I have not heard from them in a month in return to my multiple emails. It is a decent engine, and complete harness for an Automatic with A/C, so I hope it goes through. If not, I will find another engine here somewhere.
Dragon JAN 02, 11:01 PM
Good to see you at it again

Hopefully you find a reasonable 3800 for the car

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Frank Martin
87 GT
3800 s/c - lowered with Held Motorsports suspension - Suicide Doors by Archie
Custom Paint
Fun To Drive Daily Driver

87 Convertible
Sunshine Car

Napoleon_Tanerite JAN 02, 11:57 PM
I see this build as running somewhat parallel to my own. Same style, same goals, same(ish) color. Get on it. The world needs more blue Fieros.
2.5 JAN 04, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by JohnWPB:

With as much time, effort, money and such put into this car, I decided not to abandon it all.

I am actively seeking a 3800 and parts ..
JohnWPB JAN 09, 03:48 PM
I had started another thread titled: Wanting to do a swap, I need a 3800SC engine, parts, and ANY advice you can offer up! It's purpose was to source an engine, and get advice on doing my swap. That thread was successful, as it looks like I have secured an engine in Montgomery, Alabama from IROCTAFIERO. I just need to go get it, or have it shipped, it is 50/50 right now on which one I am gonna do.


What it includes:
  • 2004 Grand Prix Series 3 S/C engine (Roughly 80,000 Miles on it)
  • 4T65E(HD) from same car, still attached to engine
  • 4T65E to Fiero Transmission mount
  • 1 SLP 3.5 pulley and pulley tool (adds roughly an additional 15-20 HP)
  • 1 FieroFlyer wiring harness Built for an 1987 GT automatic with A/C (Mine is an 86 with A/C and no changes are needed that I know of at this point)
  • ECM programmed and tuned by FieroFlyer
  • 1 Throttle Body from a Series II
  • 1 Throttle Body adapter



What I still need: (Engine and mounting parts at least)
  • Coil Packs
  • Module
  • Engine Mounts

  • Correct Axels
    Here is the engine:



    Here is the transmission mount:


    I will do my best to detail every thing that I have to do do get the engine in my car up to the point is is complete in this thread. It is going to get a few weeks before I get the engine, and probably slow progress to begin with as I gather all the remaining parts, and plan everything out.

    [This message has been edited by JohnWPB (edited 01-09-2016).]

    • Napoleon_Tanerite JAN 10, 12:28 AM
    Did you decide to do the swap yourself, or are you still planning on having a professional do it?
    redraif JAN 10, 12:29 AM
    Glad to see.ou decided to keep the beast alive. Look forward to seeing it transform.
    JohnWPB JAN 10, 01:36 AM

    quote
    Originally posted by Napoleon_Tanerite:

    Did you decide to do the swap yourself, or are you still planning on having a professional do it?



    I honestly have no plans as of yet hahah! I do know a few local mechanics that do side work, as I know I can not do it all myself. I am however going to get the engine to start with, tear things off, replace gaskets, clean it up, paint it ect. I will be doing this on the weekends, and take my time. Next will be removing the 2.8, (with help) thus freeing up the cradle to start build on. From that point, not too sure yet. I am just going to take it as it goes.



    quote
    Originally posted by redraif:

    Glad to see.ou decided to keep the beast alive. Look forward to seeing it transform.



    Yea, I do hope to get it running, and actually be able to drive it! I may even try to make a GA meeting when the bugs are worked out.
    Napoleon_Tanerite JAN 10, 09:43 AM

    quote
    Originally posted by JohnWPB:

    I honestly have no plans as of yet hahah! I do know a few local mechanics that do side work, as I know I can not do it all myself. I am however going to get the engine to start with, tear things off, replace gaskets, clean it up, paint it ect. I will be doing this on the weekends, and take my time. Next will be removing the 2.8, (with help) thus freeing up the cradle to start build on. From that point, not too sure yet. I am just going to take it as it goes.



    I'm kinda in the same boat-- I have no idea what I'm doing and would get in DEEP over my head, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try. My plan is to pull the cradle from my 88 parts car and build my swap on there while the 87 is still intact. That way not only do I have an engine swap I need to deal with, but ALSO a cradle swap!

    Please post as detailed of a thread as you can, including roadblocks and lessons learned. Most build threads I have read tend to gloss over "simple" stuff that guys with experience take for granted. It's that simple stuff that a novice like me might not think of until it's too late and derails the build for a long time.
    JohnWPB JAN 10, 12:13 PM

    quote
    Originally posted by Napoleon_Tanerite:
    Most build threads I have read tend to gloss over "simple" stuff that guys with experience take for granted. It's that simple stuff that a novice like me might not think of until it's too late and derails the build for a long time.



    Hey! I know EXACTLY what you mean. I just came across a GREAT thread yesterday that has a lot of great information. A few things I did not know such as T'ing the heater core lines behind the alternator, best transmission lines to use and a few other neat tips. I read the thread from top to bottom last night, copied some stuff into my swap notes, and saved a few pictures.