TPI SBC refresh with G6 6 speed trany upgrade (Page 4/16)
TxFieros OCT 11, 12:35 AM
To avoid some WATER related problems before I put my V8 back in a couple weeks back I made out of galvanized steel a plate that attaches to the two extra holes next to where my alternator mounts on the Archie Alternator mount. I cut and bent it and screwed it in place. It covers all the top of the alternator and causes any water to fall either behind or in front of it, and not INTO the alternator.

Also, to address the valve cover, exh. manifold on the V6 and this could be applied to the V8 too, I got some vinyl at a fabric shop, I used silicone to attach it to the very narrow lip on the side of the decklid that faces the glass, and then siliconed it to the metal under the window. this would cause any water to fall on either side of the manifold. In the V8's case some water might fall on the alternator since it is right under the hinge where I had the vinyl stop. But if you have a shield for your alternator too then you'd be covered there too. On the driver side water would fall in the empty space in front of the transmission, no problems there. Believe it or not the vinyle never melted. It would get soft but never melted and I had it like that until I had to remove the lid to do the V8 conversion. I need to get some new vinyl and redo this.

Another idea that I'm going to try first is to get some thick weatherstripping and attach it to the glass all the way from side to side. It needs to be thick enough to be snug when the lid closes and when the vents on each side are pressed in. This would give a real clean stock look. To take this a step further you can put some weatherstripping on the inside of the vents (most importantly the vent on the passenger side) where it meets the lid that runs right on top of the TPI intake if you have this. If all this is done right, most all water will fall into the vents, or in the space right above the shock tower that has no sensitive stuff around it. When I put my V8 back in I invested in a full set of ARP stainless bolts for the intake manifold and valve covers. I got some nice stainless ones for the TPI intake too on Ebay.

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Carlos A. Martinez
1988 Formula 5-speed, ZZ4 V8
www.txfieros.com

Alex4mula OCT 11, 08:29 AM
TxFieros: Do you have pictures of any of that? That would be nice. I was thinking about building some channel running side to side to catch water, specially when you poen a wet decklid. Also a separate one like you did for the alternator. All my bolts are SS. I got the nice TPI set at Ebay too.
Alex4mula OCT 11, 05:26 PM
So here was my first issue installing the trany mounts. I measured from the cradle to the oil pan before unbolting the old setup. It was about 10.25". When I bolted the front mount and moked up the whole thing got this. Looks like the mount is short but it is not. The distance from the oil pan to the cradle now was 1/4"+ bigger The front cradle mount is welded and I didn't remove the front engine mount. I have no clue how this happened. It is like the front mount got tilted 3-4 degrees.




Anyway, I just was able to locate it in the right place and then tacked the mounts. All measurements are fine but the front engine mount is tilted a little. I may leave it like that.





TxFieros OCT 11, 06:38 PM
I don't have pictures but if you like I can maybe take some pictures and edit some arrows and text in to describe what I did. Right now I just have the decklid with the factory flap I got a junked 86 GT, that does nothing but deflect water a bit further forward, but does nothing when opening the lid. Let me know, and I'll help you any way I can.


That vinyl thing worked great. I never got another drop of water on that side of the engine ever again. Water would fall on the crossover pipe bolts going down to the cat, and on the compressor on the other side with the V6, so it was all good.

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Carlos A. Martinez
1988 Formula 5-speed, ZZ4 V8
www.txfieros.com

Jake_Dragon OCT 11, 07:11 PM

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20050410-2-049534.html
Check this out, I wonder if he still makes them.

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Alex4mula OCT 11, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20050410-2-049534.html
Check this out, I wonder if he still makes them.




That is what I need. I sent the guy an email. Let's see if he still sell those. Thanks!
TxFieros OCT 11, 11:17 PM
Seems like a slick looking upgrade. Although, on my car there is no place to "slip" it in under the glass. There is a tiny gap between the glass and metal and it is full of window goo used to seal the window, and it's really hard. I guess another option would be to just silicone it to the metal under the window. It would do the same thing. Let me know if you get a reply.

BTW, took my Fiero out for it's first spin after getting it all back together again. The engine is really smooth now, and the LT4 HOT Cam sounds great, not that it didn't before, but now the ZZ4 doesn't vibrate.



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Carlos A. Martinez
1988 Formula 5-speed, ZZ4 V8
www.txfieros.com

[This message has been edited by TxFieros (edited 10-11-2006).]

Alex4mula OCT 12, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20050410-2-049534.html
Check this out, I wonder if he still makes them.




Did get a reply!!. He still makes them and have some in stock. Email him at Mwfreed1@aol.com. Just ordered mine. One less to do. Thanks Jake!
FIEROPHREK OCT 12, 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Alex4mula:


Consulted that already. I'm using these rockers because I had them (got them cheap). Need the guides because on these heads the valves are much thinner than regular SBC heads valves and the guided rocker width is too big.


Oh ok

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Alex4mula OCT 16, 02:23 PM
Finished mounts. Ugly welds I know. Someday I'll get better. Trany mounted ready to check clearance at cradle.