Valve angle job done with wider throat and shrouding to fit the 1.8int & 1.5exh valves and to get them ready for the porting job.

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quote Originally posted by La fiera: https://youtu.be/DxewiTeUMlk Will I'm sorry but have to dissagree. This guy has more cubes than me, Aluminum ported and polished heads done by WOT-Tech and a big cam also done by WOT-Tech with more lift than the cam I have on my 340GTO and he still can't touch me. Wait, did I mentioned he has ITB's. He blames the dyno numbers on the tune! CFM means nothing if you can't back it up with WHP dyno numbers. Not everyting is about head CFM's, the complete package makes the difference!

The heads were not done by WOT-tech, Dave ported his own heads(and mine...). He also put a conventional manifold back on in place of the ITB's and picked up a not insignificant amount of power, I would have to find his thread to get the numbers or time slip for specifics.

As for the cam lift, I wouldn't disagree that .006" is more, but I think at that point it's kinda silly to even bring it up as an argument for either team...

As Will pointed out, his entire drivetrain is dramatically heavier, and less efficient than the transverse setup our fiero's run. the wheels are 16", but I don't think they are lighter than aftermarket 17's.

The same engine in his cavalier did 275 ish WHP(I'm not sure if he had the same cam or not), would be a more accurate comparison, as the drivetrain is much more similar in that case because the cavalier had a getrag 282.



All that being said, his engine is built with all stock casting that were ported, with the exception of the "ITB" setup(that he got rid of...) which was 6 throttles bolted to a ported, stock lower intake, no welding or other custom fabrication. the internals, with exception to the cam, and timing set, were also completely stock. from an investment standpoint, you have quite a bit more into your engine than he did.

this is just information, use it as you see fit.


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quote Originally posted by ericjon262: All that being said, his engine is built with all stock casting that were ported, with the exception of the "ITB" setup(that he got rid of...) which was 6 throttles bolted to a ported, stock lower intake, no welding or other custom fabrication. the internals, with exception to the cam, and timing set, were also completely stock. from an investment standpoint, you have quite a bit more into your engine than he did. this is just information, use it as you see fit.

I've done the same to the 3.4, its all stock except: Intake, cam, ported IRON heads and DOHC pistons and headers, thats all.

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quote Originally posted by La fiera: I've done the same to the 3.4, its all stock except: Intake, cam, ported IRON heads and DOHC pistons and headers, thats all.

he didn't even pull the pistons out of the block. I would guess that you probably have more time invested in your intake, than he did in his whole build. good luck with your goals, but I agree with Will that there are much easier ways to get there in the same platform.

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anonymous troll: it's all stock except everything...



oh the heads don't flow!

until they do flow...

so let's change the rules of the argument and blame the custom intake....

...same troll that takes a decade to do 1 swap...

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