2.2 Ecotec Swap (Page 2/2)
Will MAY 04, 02:28 PM
Like KillerFrogg said...

Exhaust
Coolant Plumbing
Fuel Plumbing
Clutch
Flywheel?
Bolts
Wiring supplies & tools
Shifter mechanism or transmission (Do 2.4 Twin Cam Getrags bolt up to Ecotec engines? OP hasn't said whether either donor or recipient car are auto or stick, so no idea what those swap costs are)
Tune

Yeah, there's a BUNCH of stuff that will add up to more than $300... especially if you want to be able to show it to people with pride and say "I built this".
KillerFrogg MAY 04, 09:33 PM
The Eco's have their own bell housing pattern separate from the Quad 4 and its later TwinCam 2.2 variants.
There are F23, F35 and F40 manuals and a few different 4 and 5 speed FWD autos available for the Eco's.

Last comment then done hijacking the OP's thread.

Don't get me wrong, the Eco's are awesome little engines. The 2.2's are super easy to get and have lots of parts available and are well documented. They just take a little more work because of the non-compatible ECU setup, mostly due to the ignition setup and no cam sensor basically requiring use of the stock computer.
Alternatives are the Cobalt SS/SC LSJ engine which as a cam sensor, but those are more expensive and not everyone wants to deal with getting a possible well abused engine.
Also super under rated and over looked is the Saab LK9. It is the same engine as the LSJ inside but with different cams suited more for its turbo setup. I am doing that engine swap in my car, using a lot of the LSJ parts, the intake with integrated water to air inter cooler and ignition system.
Shameless plug for my own thread. Ive got lots of info there and will happily answer any questions. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/141093.html

Another option would be the more recent 2.2's, L61, LEP and LE8. They have cam sensors, are not direct injected, and don't have variable cam timing. I see no issue running one of those off of a megasquirt. 150-160hp. Good fuel economy, lots of new off the shelf parts availability and not having to contort your self or drop the engine to get to the firewall side spark plugs in a V6.

Don't take this as a "oh its too hard or too expensive don't do the swap" F'n go for it. Just be aware that if you want to do it quickly, there are lots of costs involved. But if you can take a more and really be cost conscience and save up for one step at a time you can do a very well done swap on a light budget.

I honestly believe that the Ecotec's are one most of the ideal engines for these cars if you want to put anything modern in it. The biggest hurdle in my eyes right now is the ECU. Once more people go for getting a mega squirt running and well documented, and have well done and documented patch harness for integrating as much of the factory Fiero, if not all of it, these swaps will be a lot more common.

Apologies to Trace26 for the hijack lol.
ericjon262 MAY 05, 01:27 AM
I have to agree with everyone telling you to expect it to cost more than $300, it can be done CHEAP if you're resourceful enough, but it won't be easy, and will take huge amount of effort.

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http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/119122.html

wftb MAY 05, 12:44 PM
Here is a video of a sandrail with a 2.2 ecotec. There is a lot of info about his swap and maybe some methods that can be adapted to Fiero-ecotec swaps as well. He has a stock ECM made stand alone from Phil's bug shop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHqnwrU972k&t=3s

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86 GT built 2.2 ecotec turbo
rear SLA suspension
QA1 coilovers on tube arms