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pmbrunelle
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MAY 04, 12:51 PM
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Rei a constaté que les écoles n'apprenaient pas aux élèves le sens commun d'employer des rondelles en-dessous des têtes de vis.
Par la suite, moi j'ai dit que le comportement d'une matière sous la tête de vis faisait partie du cours à l'école, mais que ce sujet a été abordé seulement en surface. Donc les étudiants sortent avec de notions approximatives, mais sans trop connaissances approfondies.
Will ensuite a commenté que c'est dommage que les écoles (de façon général) n'enseignent pas en profondeur les effets de la chaleur sur les systèmes, genre l'effet de la chaleur sur un joint boulonné. Sûrement qu'il a vu des gens sortir de l'école et avoir du mal à faire leur travail parce qu'ils manquaient des bases scolaires. Rien de mal dans ce qu'il a dit (dans le texte tu as cité)!
I think it comes down to every industry thinks their domain is the most important, and feel that subjects of their domain are what should be taught to students.
The schools on the other hand are trying to produce students capable of working in a variety of jobs after school. Therefore, the schools cannot spend too much time teaching any one subject.
As a student, I did not want an overly-specific education, because I felt that it would lock me in to certain industries. I wanted the most flexibility with regards to possible employment.[This message has been edited by pmbrunelle (edited 05-04-2020).]
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claude dalpe
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MAY 04, 03:08 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by pmbrunelle:
Rei a constaté que les écoles n'apprenaient pas aux élèves le sens commun d'employer des rondelles en-dessous des têtes de vis.
Par la suite, moi j'ai dit que le comportement d'une matière sous la tête de vis faisait partie du cours à l'école, mais que ce sujet a été abordé seulement en surface. Donc les étudiants sortent avec de notions approximatives, mais sans trop connaissances approfondies.
Will ensuite a commenté que c'est dommage que les écoles (de façon général) n'enseignent pas en profondeur les effets de la chaleur sur les systèmes, genre l'effet de la chaleur sur un joint boulonné. Sûrement qu'il a vu des gens sortir de l'école et avoir du mal à faire leur travail parce qu'ils manquaient des bases scolaires. Rien de mal dans ce qu'il a dit (dans le texte tu as cité)!
I think it comes down to every industry thinks their domain is the most important, and feel that subjects of their domain are what should be taught to students.
The schools on the other hand are trying to produce students capable of working in a variety of jobs after school. Therefore, the schools cannot spend too much time teaching any one subject.
As a student, I did not want an overly-specific education, because I felt that it would lock me in to certain industries. I wanted the most flexibility with regards to possible employment.
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I'm not saying that he said something bad. I just put this answer (quote) because he was the one who spoke last. I just say that he has something to add to everything that others say, he contradicts others. I don't always agree with what he says but I don't contradict him he should do the same. It is up to the topic starter to judge the answer if it's good or not for him!
Maybe I misspoke, it's not mean what I say, it's only an opinion.
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La fiera
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MAY 04, 10:21 PM
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I speak of Will very highly and I had a hunch Patrick was a smart guy also. And Claude, I don't know you very well but I can sense
you are a very knowledgeable guy too. I quit engineering school when I prove my teacher wrong and he tried to argue he was right
when the results in front of the class were wrong. I've been wrong many times and when I'm wrong I admit it, I don't have all the answers.
I guess is my caribbean nature that makes outspoken but I mean no harm. The way I see it is we just sharing ideas in this case to help
Patrick. Calculations may give you a solution in paper and an idea, but the real world is a different story. One thing I learned about engineering
school is that calculations are for reference only, when you apply them to the real world more calculations are needed and the circle keeps going around.
Patrick, Ta 'to montro! Tu cree que ere un bacano pero lo que ere 'e un palomo. Tanto calculo pa' na. De na' te valio la ecuela de ingenieria.
Pero na', seguimo ahi pa' lante!
Again, we are just sharing ideas, isn't that what forums are created?
By the way, my boyhood hero and all time favorite F1 driver is Gilles Villanueve, a french canadian like Patrick and Claude.
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ericjon262
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MAY 05, 01:44 AM
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Dammit! I had to get google translate out for that! Lol!
My understanding is that copper gaskets also creep quite a bit as well, straight stainless is probably the best bet.------------------
"I am not what you so glibly call to be a civilized man. I have broken with society for reasons which I alone am able to appreciate. I am therefore not subject to it's stupid laws, and I ask you to never allude to them in my presence again."
cognita semper
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/119122.html
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Will
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MAY 05, 10:55 AM
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Is this a conversation about how much of an ******* I am? AWESOME! 
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claude dalpe
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MAY 05, 11:24 AM
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Rei let me know if I'm ok in my translation!
Patrick Ta 'to montro! Tu cree que ere un bacano pero lo que ere 'e un palomo, . Tanto calculo pa' na. De na' te valio la ecuela de ingenieria.
Pero na', seguimo ahi pa' lante!
Patrick, je vais te montrer! Vous pensez que c'était des vacances, mais c'est un pigeonnier. tant de calcul bon ou mauvais. L'école d'ingénieur en valait la peine.
Mais nous y sommes toujours!
Patrick, I'll show you! You think it was a vacation, but it's a dovecote. so much good or bad calculation. The engineering school was worth it.
But, we are still there!
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La fiera
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MAY 05, 08:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by claude dalpe:
Rei let me know if I'm ok in my translation!
Patrick Ta 'to montro! Tu cree que ere un bacano pero lo que ere 'e un palomo, . Tanto calculo pa' na. De na' te valio la ecuela de ingenieria.
Pero na', seguimo ahi pa' lante!
Patrick, je vais te montrer! Vous pensez que c'était des vacances, mais c'est un pigeonnier. tant de calcul bon ou mauvais. L'école d'ingénieur en valait la peine.
Mais nous y sommes toujours!
Patrick, I'll show you! You think it was a vacation, but it's a dovecote. so much good or bad calculation. The engineering school was worth it.
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Lol!! You are way off Claude but that's fine. That was Dominican Spanish slang. If a Spaniard goes to The Dominican Republic and try to understand
the slang, he'll have a hard time. Its like if you go to Haiti, the other part of the island. Haitians speak Creole, it's derived from french but you'll probably could
understand some but not all.
But regardless, I was was just complementing Patrick and now you also. I really like your diplomatic approach.
I've been wanting to go to the GIlles Villanueve museum, if I make the trip I hope I can meet you and Patrick in person!
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claude dalpe
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MAY 05, 09:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by La fiera:
Lol!! You are way off Claude but that's fine. That was Dominican Spanish slang. If a Spaniard goes to The Dominican Republic and try to understand
the slang, he'll have a hard time. Its like if you go to Haiti, the other part of the island. Haitians speak Creole, it's derived from french but you'll probably could
understand some but not all.
But regardless, I was was just complementing Patrick and now you also. I really like your diplomatic approach.
I've been wanting to go to the GIlles Villanueve museum, if I make the trip I hope I can meet you and Patrick in person!
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Definitely Mooresville is not that far away from here.
You know Gilles' museum is really not far from my home 30 miles, me and Patrick are from Montreal (he works at grand-mère)
I speak on my behalf but I am certain that Patrick will also welcome you and we go to the museum together
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La fiera
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MAY 05, 11:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by claude dalpe:
Definitely Mooresville is not that far away from here.
You know Gilles' museum is really not far from my home 30 miles, me and Patrick are from Montreal (he works at grand-mère)
I speak on my behalf but I am certain that Patrick will also welcome you and we go to the museum together |
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That will be awesome Claude!!. Now,back to Patrick's build. Hello, Patrick! Update please!!
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pmbrunelle
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MAY 06, 12:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by La fiera:
Lol!! You are way off Claude but that's fine. That was Dominican Spanish slang. If a Spaniard goes to The Dominican Republic and try to understand
the slang, he'll have a hard time.
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It was a challenge (I did not understand in the end), but I like challenges!
I am waiting for the bolts to arrive:
https://www.fedex.com/apps/...12019974525670212868
In preparation for the bolts to arrive, I have removed the manifolds and cleaned them with non-chlorinated brake cleaner, as well as the sealing surfaces on the heads.
Before cleaning, I took this photo of the rear manifold:
From the carbon, we see that #1 and #5 were leaking.
| quote | Originally posted by ericjon262:
My understanding is that copper gaskets also creep quite a bit as well, straight stainless is probably the best bet.
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I have stainless on the turbine inlet flange. That joint (and the piloted V-bands) have held up so far (100 km).
This is what I did on the turbine inlet:
Serrated-flange nut (10.9, zinc-plated)
Faced nut seating surface on cast iron turbine housing (was as-cast with draft angle on the ATP housing as-delivered)
Machined sealing surface on cast iron turbine housing (while porting the housing, I damaged the sealing surface, so the local machine shop fixed this for me)
Thin layer of wheel bearing grease (apparently an old trick; burns away and leaves carbon which can seal small gaps)
Thin stainless steel gasket. Has an embossed ring around the hole in the middle.
Thin layer of wheel bearing grease
Machined (as-bought) 304 stainless exhaust flange with tapped holes
Double-ended zinc-plated studs, anti-seize on both ends.
For the manifolds, I thought about using no gasket, just metal-on-metal (with some wheel bearing grease), but I'm not sure if the sealing surfaces (head + manifolds) are good enough (surface finish + flatness) to do that.
For Volkswagens, I found copper gaskets (3-week delivery time if I order some), but I haven't found straight stainless yet.[This message has been edited by pmbrunelle (edited 05-06-2020).]
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