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rinselberg MAR 09, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:
Years later, truths come out.
Purposely hidden footage, hidden evidence.
But who hears?
Who has the guts to say they were wrong?
Who learns from it?


That was a great setup.

Is there a date that I could mark on my calendar to remind me to look for the punch line?


Was this Pennock's forum topic created because of the recent publicity over the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission's interest in gas-fired cooking ranges and ovens?

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Patrick MAR 09, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:

Years later, truths come out.
Purposely hidden footage, hidden evidence.




Was there something about Todd's new Fiero we haven't been told about? Could it possibly have been previously owned by a... communist?

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Wichita MAR 10, 06:03 AM
The sad part is the total devastation of public trust in government, media, academia and institutions. Maybe it's always been like that whole time and we were all fooled and it's all indoctrination and propaganda and everyone gets hypnotized away from the truth.

If you are dumb enough like me to take red pill, its not a great feeling to know you are constantly lied too, gaslighted, punched down and constantly being berated by steamboats of agitations filled with Stasis who want nothing more to steal all of your earnings and to see you dead. It's freaking depressing.

Stay on the blue pill, I beg you. Believe everything they tell you. Follow everything they tell you. Be a good solider and follow orders. Keep being drunk and high on drugs and alcohol. Stay fat. Blame everyone else if it doesn't go right. Try to sue people into financial ruin. Put people you dislike in prison or at least ruin their reputations and financial well-being. Let the state raise your children. Again, keep drunk and high on alcohol and drugs everyday.
maryjane MAR 10, 06:56 AM
Will the punchline = Dominion?
maryjane MAR 10, 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Was there something about Todd's new Fiero we haven't been told about? Could it possibly have been previously owned by a... communist?





Only if it was the Red Commie Fiero..
(Must have been an 80s ad. I see BIG hair!)

Girl and guy walks by and she sees the car.....That ain't the original 'lookback' tho.

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rinselberg MAR 10, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Wichita:
The sad part is the total devastation of public trust in government, media, academia and institutions. Maybe it's always been like that whole time and we were all fooled and it's all indoctrination and propaganda and everyone gets hypnotized away from the truth.

If you are dumb enough like me to take red pill, its not a great feeling to know you are constantly lied too, gaslighted, punched down and constantly being berated by steamboats of agitations filled with Stasis who want nothing more to steal all of your earnings and to see you dead. It's freaking depressing.

Stay on the blue pill, I beg you. Believe everything they tell you. Follow everything they tell you. Be a good solider and follow orders. Keep being drunk and high on drugs and alcohol. Stay fat. Blame everyone else if it doesn't go right. Try to sue people into financial ruin. Put people you dislike in prison or at least ruin their reputations and financial well-being. Let the state raise your children. Again, keep drunk and high on alcohol and drugs everyday.


"How America Fractured Into Four Parts"
George Packer for The Atlantic; July/August 2021.
https://www.theatlantic.com...our-americas/619012/

"Free America, Real America, Smart America and Just (as in justice) America"

It's a multi-page essay. A "read". Here's how it ends:

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ALL FOUR of the narratives I’ve described emerged from America’s failure to sustain and enlarge the middle-class democracy of the postwar years. They all respond to real problems. Each offers a value that the others need and lacks ones that the others have. Free America celebrates the energy of the unencumbered individual. Smart America respects intelligence and welcomes change. Real America commits itself to a place and has a sense of limits. Just America demands a confrontation with what the others want to avoid. They rise from a single society, and even in one as polarized as ours they continually shape, absorb, and morph into one another. But their tendency is also to divide us, pitting tribe against tribe. These divisions impoverish each narrative into a cramped and ever more extreme version of itself.

All four narratives are also driven by a competition for status that generates fierce anxiety and resentment. They all anoint winners and losers. In Free America, the winners are the makers, and the losers are the takers who want to drag the rest down in perpetual dependency on a smothering government. In Smart America, the winners are the credentialed meritocrats, and the losers are the poorly educated who want to resist inevitable progress. In Real America, the winners are the hardworking folk of the white Christian heartland, and the losers are treacherous elites and contaminating others who want to destroy the country. In Just America, the winners are the marginalized groups, and the losers are the dominant groups that want to go on dominating.

I don’t much want to live in the republic of any of them.

It’s common these days to hear people talk about sick America, dying America, the end of America. The same kinds of things were said in 1861, in 1893, in 1933, and in 1968. The sickness, the death, is always a moral condition. Maybe this comes from our Puritan heritage. If we are dying, it can’t be from natural causes. It must be a prolonged act of suicide, which is a form of murder.

I don’t think we are dying. We have no choice but to live together—we’re quarantined as fellow citizens. Knowing who we are lets us see what kinds of change are possible. Countries are not social-science experiments. They have organic qualities, some positive, some destructive, that can’t be wished away. Our passion for equality, the individualism it produces, the hustle for money, the love of novelty, the attachment to democracy, the distrust of authority and intellect—these won’t disappear. A way forward that tries to evade or crush them on the road to some free, smart, real, or just utopia will never arrive and instead will run into a strong reaction. But a way forward that tries to make us Equal Americans, all with the same rights and opportunities—the only basis for shared citizenship and self-government—is a road that connects our past and our future.

Meanwhile, we remain trapped in two countries. Each one is split by two narratives—Smart and Just on one side, Free and Real on the other. Neither separation nor conquest is a tenable future. The tensions within each country will persist even as the cold civil war between them rages on.


The end is followed by this, which means it's not "actually" the end. This is the end:

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This essay is adapted from George Packer’s new book, Last Best Hope: America in Crisis and Renewal. It appears in the July/August 2021 print edition [of The Atlantic] with the headline “The Four Americas.”


It's apparent that quotation marks and their analogue in the Quote format—the proverbial black text highlighted against a white background—are the Swiss Army Knife of my commentator's arsenal (such as it is).

Another commentator might say that "rinselberg is the Quotation", in the same way (this is obscure) that St Louis Cardinals radio broadcasters were saying, as recently as the 2021 MLB season, that "Matt Carpenter is the count of three and two."

It's a fact.

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Raydar MAR 10, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
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rinselberg MAR 10, 12:45 PM
rinselberg MAR 10, 01:32 PM


I think that essay from George Packer in The Atlantic is a perfect response to Wichita's "Red Pill vs Blue Pill" remarks. I think it would be great if Wichita used my link to scroll through the essay and see if he recognizes himself, in the four narratives that George Packer describes. "Free America, Real America, Smart America and Just (as in justice) America." Or perhaps Wichita will surprise me and say that he already has some familiarity with George Packer or with that essay about the Four Americas.

As far as what I added at the end, about "rinselberg"... if that detracted (for Raydar) from what I had presented up to that point, that's misfortunate, but that last part wasn't meant as any kind of substance.

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css9450 MAR 10, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

(Must have been an 80s ad. I see BIG hair!)




Stray Cats' "Rant n Rave", released August 1983.