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rinselberg
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OCT 12, 10:45 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Fred is a newbie... and from day-1, he came to the Politics forum and made that his primary mission. Unlike MEM or anyone else who spends as much time in General and T/OT as he does in Politics. Fred branched out to the other forums, almost socio-pathicaly for no other reason than to attempt to give himself "cred" on the forum for not just being the guy that spends his time entirely on the Politics forum (as you've kind of started to become over the past year.)
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I don't see that as a reason to "neg" someone, which turned into a speed ban in fredtoast's case.
What is that protecting? The "sanctity" of the forum?
If you toss enough people out of a lifeboat, you end up being the only one that remains.
It doesn't make for vibrant conversation, unless you're really into talking to yourself.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 10-12-2023).]
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Jake_Dragon
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OCT 12, 10:55 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I don't see that as a reason to "neg" someone, which turned into a speed ban in fredtoast's case.
What is that protecting? The "sanctity" of the forum?
If you toss enough people out of a lifeboat, you end up being the only one that remains.
It doesn't make for vibrant conversation, unless you're really into talking to yourself.
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No he earned his negs and they had consequences.
I had hoped his bar would show up and help temper his posts but that did not happen.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 12, 10:56 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:I don't see that as a reason to "neg" someone, which turned into a speed ban in fredtoast's case.
What is that protecting? The "sanctity" of the forum?
If you toss enough people out of a lifeboat, you end up being the only one that remains.
It doesn't make for vibrant conversation, unless you're really into talking to yourself. |
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As I've said several times already. What Fred provided was NOT vibrant conversation. He was INCITEFUL, not INSIGHTFUL. When he challenged people, it was a war to him at worst, and a game to him at best. That's sociopathy. You are sad because you've lost a political ally... in which you viewed his tenaciousness as a reprieve almost from having to shoulder the burden of defending the Democrat party all on your own. But again, there's a difference... you and I can have a normal conversation. No one could with Fred... his constant posturing, and complete ignorance of content when proven wrong... that's not a discussion... it was a battle. And that poisons everyone and everything in the discussion.
EDIT: Also... I neg'ed Fredtoast after the bestiality post... because I was basically done with his antics. I don't know specifically what precipitated his banning this last time, but I suspect it had to do with him aggressively asking Randye if he was Jewish (as a negative inference). Be that as it may, I was on a business trip at the time, and have no idea... I think possibly even that post was removed. So... he made his own bed... or as someone else said... he hung himself so to speak.[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 10-12-2023).]
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Patrick
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OCT 12, 04:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
And what bias is that?
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Oh. My. Gawd.
Todd, I enjoy kidding around with you about cars or critters or video etc... but you are SO out of touch with reality when it comes to people and/or to their motivations in life.
After reading your response to my last post... I gotta say, I absolutely nailed it.
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Todd, you're so blinded by your bias that you wouldn't recognize your own dogma if it ran up and bit you.
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cliffw
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OCT 12, 05:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
But where do you get off with your speculation
Extravagant, overreaching speculations are a weakness of yours... |
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Really rinse and repeat ? Umm, can you prove that instead of speculating about it ?
You speculate most of the time. As perhaps do we all. That is called, ... , wait for it, ... an opinion.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 12, 08:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Oh. My. Gawd.
Todd, I enjoy kidding around with you about cars or critters or video etc... but you are SO out of touch with reality when it comes to people and/or to their motivations in life.
After reading your response to my last post... I gotta say, I absolutely nailed it.
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Patrick, it was my job for many years to understand the psychology of others. It's part of what I did for a living. I'm actually really well aware of reality... and not only my place in it, but how totally insignificant our views are to the whole rest of the world. I'm not sure you see it like that.
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Patrick
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OCT 12, 09:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I'm actually really well aware of reality... and not only my place in it, but how totally insignificant our views are to the whole rest of the world. I'm not sure you see it like that.
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Todd, I don't think you're a bad guy at all. If you were, I wouldn't bother kibitzing with you about anything other than politics. With politics though, you completely lose it. It's like your brain goes into some kind of self-defense mode, and all reason goes out the window. I don't pretend to know why you are the way you are, but I suspect you'd be an interesting case study!
| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Patrick, it was my job for many years to understand the psychology of others. It's part of what I did for a living.
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It's happened quite a few times over the years in the tech areas of PFF, when the guys who were having the most trouble diagnosing and fixing their Fieros, would spout that they were ASE certified mechanics... of course insinuating that the rest of us didn't know what we were talking about. 
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 13, 08:05 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
It's happened quite a few times over the years in the tech areas of PFF, when the guys who were having the most trouble diagnosing and fixing their Fieros, would spout that they were ASE certified mechanics... of course insinuating that the rest of us didn't know what we were talking about. |
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Patrick... this is you trying to "bring me down a notch" because you think I've gotten too high on my horse. You've talked about my politics, but haven't really addressed anything. Would you care to debate some of the things I've said? ...or are you simply upset that the things I've said (that while completely factual) do not align with your world view of your opinions?
Most of the people on this forum know what I did as a career for the last 11 years, I think you may also know. The places I've been, the things I've seen, and the experiences I've had are not something you'd apply to someone who is "SO out of touch with reality." I've witnessed the dismembered body parts of children being shoveled into the back of a pickup truck. **** you if you think I'm out of touch with reality. I've seen and witnessed abject poverty in this world first hand the likes of which you will never see and do not know exists. Conversely, the wealth I've witnessed first hand, is also... the likes of which you will never see. I am arrogant, and confident, yes... and that perhaps rubs you the wrong way. But I can assure you... out of touch with reality is something I am absolutely not. I'm so well aware of it, that it keeps me up at night.
... and for that matter, the ONLY one I see arguing time and time again in the tech section is you ... and maybe those guys that say everyone should go to a roller block.
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Patrick
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OCT 13, 06:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I've witnessed the dismembered body parts of children being shoveled into the back of a pickup truck. **** you if you think I'm out of touch with reality. I'm so well aware of it, that it keeps me up at night.
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It's possible you're suffering from PTSD. No, I'm not being flippant. I suspect you'll just brush off the suggestion, but it would certainly help explain what I've witnessed here from you over the years.
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick Here:
With politics though, you completely lose it. It's like your brain goes into some kind of self-defense mode, and all reason goes out the window. I don't pretend to know why you are the way you are, but I suspect you'd be an interesting case study!
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[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 10-13-2023).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 13, 09:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
It's possible you're suffering from PTSD. No, I'm not being flippant. I suspect you'll just brush off the suggestion, but it would certainly help explain what I've witnessed here from you over the years.
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I thank you for the concern Patrick. But my point is that I think at least between the two of us, it's you who has no concept of reality. Unless you tell me otherwise, I imagine you've spent your entire life working in Canada, probably hasn't traveled a whole lot, and your entire world-view is Canada. It's beautiful up there... but not exactly relative to what's going on in reality for the rest of the world, or even at best, the United States.
Prove me wrong.
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