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olejoedad JAN 25, 01:54 PM
There are none so blind as those who live with closed minds.

Your hatred is pathological.
cliffw JAN 25, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:
-We need immigration reform because the flood of immigrants are overburdening our public schools and support system. And the illegals sneeking in are only a small portion of the problem. Hundreds of thousands are allowed to enter seeking asylum.



First, "immigration reform" is so generic. It's like saying "it's hot outside".

How come Biden allows the flood of illegal aliens to enter and overburden our public schools, our medical care, our Welfare system, and our employment opportunities ?

How did Trump keep out illegal aliens without "comprehensive immigration reform", what ever that means



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Originally posted by BingB:
-We need firearm regulation because it is too easy from violent criminals to obtain guns and too difficult for police to enforce the laws we already have.



All felons are prohibited from ever owning a gun. I feel much safer because Martha Stewert is not allowed to own a gun. Those laws don't stop violent criminals from obtaining guns. Your police reasoning has no merit.


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Originally posted by BingB:
-We need healthcare reform because millions have no insurance and we consumers end up paying for their health care while health insurance companies make billions in profits.



Everyone has health insurance even if it is crappy ObamaCare. Which all taxpayers provide.


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Originally posted by BingB:
-We need election reform because big money has too much influence on elections and the two-party system is ruining everything.



Ah yes. Dictatorship.
williegoat JAN 25, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

and we would not know that under the Gop rules
that make tax cheats secrets you do NOT get to know


So, those who shirk their obligation to the government should be exposed as the dirtbags that they are?
Patrick JAN 25, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The cost of employer provided health care is factored in to the cost of the product made or the service rendered by the employer. Taxpayers buy the product or service, thereby paying for the insurance provided by that employer.

Taxpayers pay for everything in the end.



Not sure what point you're trying to make, but you're only backing up what I stated.


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Originally posted by Patrick Here:

How are taxpayers who are not privy to private healthcare insurance plans able to benefit from them? Simple, they don't.



So yes, taxpayers pay for everything... including private health care plans which they themselves may or may not be able to make use of. Great system!
olejoedad JAN 25, 07:24 PM
I don't hear many people from our northern neighbor bragging about their healthcare.
Patrick JAN 25, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

I don't hear many people from our northern neighbor bragging about their healthcare.



How many Canadians do you speak to on a daily basis? Probably zero.

The socialized healthcare system we have in Canada isn't perfect, but it's vastly superior to the healthcare for profit system you have in the States. In Canada (and most other first-world countries), healthcare is available to everyone... and not at the risk of going bankrupt.
olejoedad JAN 25, 11:12 PM
You might be surprised at how many sources of information that I have at my disposal.
Patrick JAN 25, 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

You might be surprised at how many sources of information that I have at my disposal.



I doubt very much that your sources can tell you more than I know from living here and making use of the medical system in Canada for 68 years.

It's too bad for you that MEM wasn't still a forum member so he could suck up to the American right-wingers here and piss all over his home country.
randye JAN 26, 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:



The fact that I am fortunate enough to have insurance does not mean that I don't see the problem with the rest of the population. In fact this is a very personal issue with me because I have a good friend whose life was destroyed because unaffordable health care.






Your feelings don't mean squat.

Proper public policy and legislation is NOT made on the basis of emotions / feelings.
rinselberg JAN 26, 04:45 AM

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Originally posted by randye:
Your feelings don't mean squat...




From rinse's U.S. bureau chief Major Update.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-26-2024).]