The ridiculous idea of "consensus science" is simply the combination of two pernicious logical fallacies:

1. Argument Ad Populum

2. Appeal to (imagined) Authority

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quote Originally posted by olejoedad: The current 'climate' in most of the science community is that one isn't allowed to ask questions, one is just to accept the answers. You should quit accepting what you are told without question. It really limits your outlook of the world around you.

Godless Leftists have adopted a twisted, perverted, vision of "science" as their "religion" that must not be questioned.

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Glacial rock "flour" from Greenland eyed as an agricultural fertilizer "Friends with Benefits," countering human greenhouse gas emissions by absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere.

quote The first experiments with glacial rock flour from Greenland show that it can capture significant amounts of CO2 and provide a wider array of nutrients than commercial organic fertilizers, resulting in improved crop growth. In the long term, the glacial rock flour can be of great importance in stopping climate change. The researcher behind the studies calls it a "promising, scalable solution."

The Greenland ice sheet slowly pulverizes the rocky landscape that underlies it into a very fine mineral powder known as glacial "rock flour." Where visible, it looks like a grayish or gray-hued mud that is conspicuous against the otherwise lush green or snow-white landscape of Greenland.

"Nuuk Nuuk Nuuk"

The Three Stooges? Think again. Glacial rock flour is seen here in Nuuk Fjord.


Maybe this is a "Quantum of Solace" for humanity, as Greenland's glaciers continue to melt away in the planet's sadly overheated climate.




"Greenlandic glacial rock flour can help fight climate change"
Faculty of Health and Medical Sciences; University of Copenhagen.
May 30, 2023.
https://healthsciences.ku.d...%20clim ate%20change.

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quote Godless Leftists have adopted a twisted, perverted, vision of [science] as their "religion" that must not be questioned.

I won't pretend to be well schooled in Catholic doctrine, but I've read about it in the context of media reports about scientific topics like cosmology and evolution.

I think the Vatican is OK with—or down with, as a rap artist would say—the scientific view that the Earth is a sun-orbiting planet that coalesced from clouds of dust particles about 4.5 billion years ago, and that all the features of the world that we inhabit today—including ourselves—are the product of a continual process of evolution.

Every species of life that we see today, including ourselves, has emerged from a process of biological evolution that goes all the way back to the first life forms on the planet that were robust enough to keep on evolving, instead of going extinct at some point without having given rise to any (further) evolutionary descendants. I think that scientists are currently "eyeing" about 2 billion years ago when life forms that fit this description first emerged on the planet. (Give or take a billion? Close enough for this discussion.)

I think you have to be OK with all of that, in order to be receptive to the ideas that have taken hold among so many climate researchers: That the planet's climate is warming and warming rapidly; that most of this warming is being caused by a trend of accumulating greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and that it is human life that is causing this accumulating trend of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere with fossil fuels, agriculture, livestock, deforestation, construction using concrete and other industrial processes. (People who follow the Science or Climate reporting from the mainstream news media "know the drill.")

Except for these particular aspects of contemporaneous human life—fossil fuels; etc.—the planet's climate would not be warming as rapidly as climate researchers say it is warming... so say many climate scientists and researchers.

I started by singling out Catholicism and the Vatican. That's because—to my awareness—the Vatican has been the most prominent among all faith-based organizations worldwide in terms of having a formalized interest in science. There's a long history to it.

People know about the Vatican (astronomical) Observatory. And Georges Lemaître, 1894-1966, a native of Belgium, a Catholic priest—and a so-called "father" of the Big Bang theory of the universe. Judging from photos I've seen, Lemaître, with chalk in hand and a blackboard behind him, could dole out the Greek-infused symbology of higher mathematics with the best of them.


Albert Einstein and Georges Lemaître, "mulling it over" in 1932.


"At the end of the day..."

quote “For the most part, it’s us and El Niño,” said Josh Willis, a climate scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory. “At the end of the day, humans are heating the planet, and El Niño is dancing on our heads.”

This is a reference to 2023, which has been heralded by a number of climate researchers as likely the warmest year—in terms of global temperatures—that the planet has seen in about the last 800,000 years. (That's partly an inference, based on what is known about prehistoric percentages of atmospheric carbon dioxide.)

In other words, human greenhouse gas emissions are the reason that 2023 was remarkably "hot," and the oscillatory Pacific Ocean condition known as "El Niño" caused 2023 to be even a little bit hotter... as if the human greenhouse gas emissions were the jalapeños, and El Niño was like a ghost pepper that a somewhat cavalier-minded chef spontaneously decided to toss in for good measure.


I guess these are just the first thoughts that I have upon encountering that phrase "Godless Leftists" from one of the other forum members.

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quote NREL researcher Jordan Macknick provides [a very brief] overview of NREL’s agrivoltaics research.

How brief..? Not even two minutes. NREL is acronymic for National Renewable Energy Laboratory, which is part of the U.S. Department of Energy.

Agrivoltaics is—wait for it—a portmanteau, derived from Agriculture and Voltaics... as in Solar Voltaic Energy... energy from solar panels or cells.

Agrivoltaics is—drum roll, please—"Two Things at Once."

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