Time for a semi-general pardon (unbanning banned members)? (Page 9/11)
Raydar MAY 25, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
.... However, knowing what we know, it wasn't a total surprise that JazzMan finally snapped from the harassment.




Patrick, Jazz gave as good as he got. And he frequently made it personal.
But I wish he were still around. As badly as I disagreed with him, most of the time, I pretty much never instigated those arguments.
I really tried to treat him as a friend, until he was just having none of it.

As an aside... That's only ever happened (to me) with one other member, who was not banned, but left of his own accord. I'm still not sure what I did, personally, to piss him off. But I think mainly it was the collective. Not just me.

Edit - How do I keep owning pages of this thread?

[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 05-25-2020).]

Raydar MAY 25, 10:02 AM
Here's an idea...

I would be happy if I could "block" certain members' posts. Similar to how it's done on FB. (I've blocked a few people, there - even in the Fiero groups - and haven't missed them one tiny bit.
So you might not be able to vote people off of the "collective" island. But you could make them not be a part of yours.
Patrick MAY 25, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

Patrick, Jazz gave as good as he got.



And why shouldn't he have?

Raydar, it's occurred over and over again here where some forum member has been continually harassed by a number of others, and when that member finally fights back in the same manner, all of a sudden he's the bad guy. Hell, the same scenario is being repeated in O/T as we speak!

I witnessed the entire JazzMan saga (as did you). We both know who the members were who purposely made JazzMan's time at PFF miserable. It was disgusting and totally uncalled for.

I'm sorry Raydar, but if you believe JazzMan brought it upon himself, then we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
jscott1 MAY 25, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

Here's an idea...

I would be happy if I could "block" certain members' posts. Similar to how it's done on FB. (I've blocked a few people, there - even in the Fiero groups - and haven't missed them one tiny bit.
So you might not be able to vote people off of the "collective" island. But you could make them not be a part of yours.



^^^^^^

This.

I have blocked people on Facebook just because I don't want to interact with them. It's that simple. Here one bad apple does spoil the whole bunch.
Dennis LaGrua MAY 25, 03:52 PM
I would assume that since its inception, over 30,000 Fiero owners have signed up for this forum. Today hundreds are active but the site does get quite a number of visitors. If you go back to when this forum was started around 2000 (gee am I that old? ) heated arguments were common. Many members were young and spirited. As owners matured and mellowed, flaming gradually disappeared. Outside of gross personal attacks I have no problem with disagreements. What I have noticed is that when you don't buy into some ideas and/or opinions that are promoted, you get ganged up upon, and could be banned. How many members have we lost debating the V6 vs V8 which is best thread? What is disappointing is that we have lost some knowledgeable members only for their stubbornness on a particular subject. Some of these guys now post on Facebook and have something to contribute. With its heated debates, I still enjoyed the forum in its early days and still enjoy it now. It is by far the easiest to use and best information reference for Fiero owners.
Cliff, you have the list and most of the emails of all of the Fiero Forum members past and present. Perhaps a "welcome back" email blast to all would generate some interest.

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Raydar MAY 28, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
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I'm sorry Raydar, but if you believe JazzMan brought it upon himself, then we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.



Yes. Yes we will.
Just like anyone here, Jazz was not blameless. I still seem to remember him starting his fair share. (A search seems to support this. He welcomed the arguments. But in the grand scheme of things, it's not that important. I'll stop there.)

With all of that said, above, this was the first of his old posts that I came to.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-6-045598.html
Patrick MAY 28, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

With all of that said, above, this was the first of his old posts that I came to.

Deconstructing JazzMan



Wow, that's quite a read. Judging from my lack of a response in that 2006 thread, I've never seen it before. Thanks for posting the link.
doublec4 MAY 29, 10:25 PM
I haven't been very active on here for a few years now... I've come back a bit here and there ... seen this post come up and the names mentioned reminds me of all of the drama from years ago. I still can't believe how personal people got and how much they took the internet drama to heart. Some people were con artists and stole money etc, that is entirely different... but a lot of people just got so personal over stupid things, I couldn't believe how childish people would act. Not sure if this is still going on these days, but I would hate to see that come back. I feel like some people don't change and old grudges will resurface. Not sure how many old dogs have a new fresh perspective on life and are willing to let it all go even from years ago. My 2 cents/
TK MAY 30, 06:48 PM
I suspect few banned members are banging on the door to get back in.

Wouldn't it be more constructive to suggest current members to ban?
RWDPLZ MAY 30, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by TK:

I suspect few banned members are banging on the door to get back in.