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kgoodyear
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JUN 04, 06:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Even though I have no interest in converting my headlights over to LED, I found that video to be quite interesting. |
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Yes! I saw it as well. I never knew there were fans on them. IS there any advantage to the new LED headlights?
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theogre
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JUN 04, 06:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by kgoodyear:
So now I am confused. I thought it would be a pretty simple choice. Solid state, less heat, longer life, less amperage--good idea. It doesn't seem so. I don't have the electronics knowledge the guy in the video has but it sure seems the LEDs have been put through some pretty rough stresses. |
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It likely Died just using them normally.
He's an UK electrician for shows fairs etc and made many items for those groups. Give one fail for unit on hand but not a car or IT guy and doesn't follow cars with problems for crap "upgrades." Just last month UK MOT sim to US DOT etc have made stricter rules to pass inspection and not just Diesel cars.
Even ignore H4/HB2 shells are made to have Halogen bulbs...
In that case, even w/ a fan the aluminum where LEDs are is too small to move heat fast enough and LB LED fries. HB LED would fry too if used more. Can't use more Al because every fraction of a mm in the mounting zone pushes LED more out of focus and performs even worse.
Most have seen small fans in Desktops Laptops and Game boxes full of crap and CPU slows down or crashes even w/ fans at highest speeds? Or Fan(s) Bearings just wear out and stops working? Same would happen to many of HL units and LED quickly fries.
You're not nearly first to get confused and Ebay Amazon and Many Others vendors are raking in Millions of $ selling illegal lights not just LEDs. Including TFS and others that pretend they are Fiero owners "Best Friend." Cheap units are easy to guess many are crap but not always. Best LEDs behind color lenses or in small fixtures can perform badly or can't dump heat and die. See my Cave, LED poisoning and Lighbulbs.
Far worse this is Not just Cars w/ problems... 120/240 LED lights for home or commercial use sold thru Ebay Amazon and others have big problems that can hurt/kill you or burn down the building install in. One friend recently got some small LED "flood lights" from Ebay... Ground wire does? Nothing because not connected inside like this from bigclive. (Many others show same problems but is easy to just use another of his examples.) If more likely When the LED or Driver shorts to case you have a Case w/ main power to shock anyone that touches it.
You pay more to go to Graybar even Lowe's stores but products sold are much safer to run. I mean ones the Store sell on it's own Web site too. You have to watch 3rd party vendors selling thru any web sites.
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fierofool
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JUN 04, 06:48 PM
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theogre
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JUN 04, 07:43 PM
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I Don't use YT tag because take too much space and some refuse embed due to YT DRM.
If has a Flat Cutoff then isn't legal in many places. Cutoff shape should be higher on the right for US Canada Most of EU and others that drive on right side of the road. Legal or not, This helps to light Road Signs, People, etc, on the right of the road w/o blinding oncoming drivers.
Short Example: http://donsnotes.com/home_g...ight-adjustment.html DOT is top, Most of EU is next, UK is bottom.
| quote | Originally posted by kgoodyear:
Yes! I saw it as well. I never knew there were fans on them. IS there any advantage to the new LED headlights? |
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Above example type or HID in H4/HB2 shells. None and often worse lighting and blind other drivers.
If you use products like Trucklite GE and some others HL then can help but cost is too high and not enough warranty for most drivers.
Even then... The Back of the Shells need air flow to cool. Back side is Heatsink for the LEDs whether or not back has fins. Most HL Buckets aren't made for them and covers most of the back. So for many vehicles might last 1-3 years to out last the Warranty (Trucklite is 3 years, others may be shorter.) but not enough to justify the high cost.
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ron768
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JUN 04, 09:36 PM
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Instead of wasting money, go find a pair of Cibie Z Beams or E code replacement headlights. Yes, real Cibie lights will be expensive, however, the light pattern is excellent on low and high beam. Use GE silverstar bulbs and you should be happy. No, they are not as bright as the new headlights that blind the **** out of everyone in front of them, but they are much better than stock .
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Shho13
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JUN 05, 12:32 AM
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I recently did LEDs on my 88. Check out page 2 on my restoration/build thread to see what I used all around.
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BoxerFanatic
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JUN 08, 01:33 PM
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I am just a spectator here, but I saw these the other day, and instantly thought of Fieros...
JW Speaker 9800
High, low, turn signal and position light, all LED, heated or un-heated, and DOT legal. They are designed for snow plows, trucks, and other non-specific-fitment vehicles.
I am not sure if they would be a little bigger than the turn signal units... but they might fit behind the fascia, and mount to the front of the bulkhead.
If they would fit, or fit with a little bit of trimming, it could eliminate the pop-ups altogether to save weight, or the pop-ups could serve another purpose, like housing some low-rise LED light bars with fog optics or something... Something used at lower-speed and occaisionally.
Putting headlights in the signal location would mean that night driving on the highway wouldn't need deploy aero speed brakes to use the headlights. ;-)[This message has been edited by BoxerFanatic (edited 06-08-2018).]
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kgoodyear
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JUN 08, 01:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BoxerFanatic:
Putting headlights in the signal location would mean that night driving on the highway wouldn't need deploy aero speed brakes to use the headlights. ;-)
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he he--aero speed brakes--that's funny!
They look nice but the aero speed brakes are an important part of the Fiero experience. Along with that Fiero owners I suspect are too frugal to drop $750 on a set.
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lorennerol
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JUN 08, 02:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Domtech:
While I didn't buy those specific ones several people from the local club have and all seem very happy with them.
They have a nice cutoff that gets lower on the driver side, and properly adjusted I don't think you would ever get in any trouble over them missing a dot number.
Look thru the customer images and you can see what they look like on a Fiero. |
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I am one of those people. Have had installed for a couple years now. Easy install (no harder than changing a sealed beam), ZERO modifications needed, zero issues.
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BoxerFanatic
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JUN 08, 03:11 PM
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For standard replacement... probably not the cheapest, but likely the best quality replacement in the stock location:
JW Speaker 8900 Evo 2
LED, DOT compliant, USA made, probably nearly triple the light output of halogen sealed-beam, and properly focused, and will probably outlast almost any car they are installed in.
Mount and connect directly in place of stock sealed beams.
TruckLite and some others do produce less expensive LED-reflective, rather than LED-projection sealed-beam replacements. DOT approved should mean proper cutoff and light output. Chinese knock-off stuff is the least expensive, but also the most likely to be inferior optics and output, either wasting light output, low light output, or blinding on-coming drivers.[This message has been edited by BoxerFanatic (edited 06-08-2018).]
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