A Real Mera in Paradise (Page 135/713)
Rick 88 JUL 10, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Awesome sound!! Here's the link:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/109963.html

Rick, if you have Google Tool Bar loaded onto your brower, just hit the TRANSLATE button on the top, right hand side, and it turns all of those little boxes into English. He doesn't write anything on the actual plumbing, though. In fact, even in English, not sure what the heck is is talking about.

Also to the left of that first clip, his e-mail address is listed. I would send him an e-mail in as plain English as possible, maybe asking for a simple drawing that shows the layout of the pipes. I would, but that is a little above my mechanical background...I don't even know what 180 degrees headers are!

I have a friend in Shanghai who grew up in Taiwan, and is a native speaker. I'll send him the link, I'd like to know what he is saying when the first clip is ending.

Tom



Thank for the info Tom. I will see if I can pull up his email address. Hope he understands a little English.
Fiero-in-Paradise JUL 10, 01:57 PM
Rick,

His e-mail address is:

fiero_tw@yahoo.com.tw

E-mail me a list of questions you want to ask him, and I'll forward it to my friend in Shanghai. I'll ask him to translate to Mandarin (the common language in Taiwan) and forward to this person.

Dan, good on you to attempt to bring us all together! Now I just need to contemplate on getting the Mera to the mainland. What I'd really like to do is to take the Mera to one of those larger Fiero gatherings (like that Fiero-rama thing they had)...since I'm also a Fiero owner too!

I may take the Mera for a ride today and take a look at this:

http://honolulu.craigslist..../ctd/1834530373.html

Wife says I'm suffering from midlife crisis trauma, stage 3.

Tom
Edit: Rick, I heard back from my friend in Shanghai. See what I posted at the link.

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batousai666 JUL 10, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Dan, good on you to attempt to bring us all together! Now I just need to contemplate on getting the Mera to the mainland. What I'd really like to do is to take the Mera to one of those larger Fiero gatherings (like that Fiero-rama thing they had)...since I'm also a Fiero owner too!

Tom


FIERO-RAMA Sept 12th 2010- St.Charles, IL
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/081635.html

well Tom, seeing as you have the Most to invest in this little To-DO....you can pick the location in my opinion. FieroRama would be a great place to have a get togeather and its already set up. its not so central but we would get the audience. good show Tom.

i leave that decision to you, Friend.
Dan

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mera7 JUL 11, 02:06 AM
rick if you find a tubi muffler it will sound close. its how the db's resonate inside the chambers and echos through the bellows. but anyhow tubi's can be found in america. you just have to look
batousai666 JUL 11, 08:04 AM
Check this out! got another one. Mera #8013, on Ebay.
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I am listing the original factory interior from my 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT MERA (#8013). I bought it several years back not realizing that it was a MERA and removed the Fiero based interior and swapped it out with one that was more authentic looking. Had I been educated at the time about MERA's I would have left it alone. I'm not exactly sure how much was original and what might have been added or altered by the previous owners. This interior package would be perfect for anyone who is looking to upgrade the look of their Fiero interior, anyone who wants to upgrade their standard 4 cylinder Fiero interior to the GT style interior (you have to upgrade the engine and ECM to be compatible with GT gauge cluster) or for anyone who has a Fiero that needs or is missing the interior of their Fiero or Ferrari kit car. As I mentioned this interior has been sitting for a few years boxed up so it's a little musty and could use a quick wipe down. The wood grain trim is just vinyl and is starting to peal in some areas. The dash parts and door skins are wrapped in vinyl. This is a near complete interior which includes all the components to install a dash, gauges, center console and interior doors. I have some screws but most of the screws had to be reused for the new interior. I will provide all the screws and bolts that I have. Here is a more detailed breakdown of what is included:

-Main dash (with a closable storage pocket)

-Dash side trim panels

-GT speedometer gauge cluster (odometer reads 55,445.7 miles *yes well under 100,000 miles*)

-Speedometer trim panel with vinyl Ferrari logo

-Rear speedometer housing

-GT gauges (volt and oil pressure) w/ mounting bracket, trim plate and plexi-glass cover.

-Speaker covers

-Radio pod housing

-Radio & AC trim plate

-Defrost blower housing

-Vinyl wrapped manual transmission center console unit.

-Leather wrapped shift knob

-Vinyl wrapped center console with storage door and Ferrari horse

-Vinyl wrapped Driver side and passenger side door skin with handles and trim plate.

-Leather wrapped GT steering wheel with Ferrari logo.

-Extra custom dash components

-Other misc. brackets and screws for mounting dash.
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on Mikes tip i went looking for Tubi, look what i found!



notice it has 308 cut into it! On both sides!! awesome!! too bad it costs as much as a Eng. swap...
pics of the Taiwan Fiero....
am i seeing this right? is the middle cyl. seperate from the other two here? or is it tapped into the top of the bottum one like a "t" pipe instead of a "y" pipe. i dont know what i mean but maybe one of you do.


then are both sides of the eng are collected here???


and whats with the 3 levels of pipe and stuff??



D

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reholmes JUL 11, 12:00 PM
I believe the firing order on the V-6 Fiero is 1-2-3-4-5-6. If you tap the center exhaust port and connect to the "outers" on the other bank, doesn't that give you a 180 degree exhaust? Mike? OK, maybe not, maybe it gives you a 120 or 240 degree exhaust, but it certainly gives you firing in alternating collectors.

Hey, I'm not a header guy, but seems to me that's what a 180 header is all about.

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Rick 88 JUL 11, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by reholmes:

I believe the firing order on the V-6 Fiero is 1-2-3-4-5-6. If you tap the center exhaust port and connect to the "outers" on the other bank, doesn't that give you a 180 degree exhaust? Mike?

Hey, I'm not a header guy, but seems to me that's what a 180 header is all about.



I don't know if it makes it a 180 degree exhaust but it must alter the exhaust pulses and the sound also. I just need to figure out how the system is run. It is obvious the one exhaust port ties into the opposite bank. Which cylinders are on each bank of the 2.8?
Rick 88 JUL 11, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Fiero-in-Paradise:

Rick,

His e-mail address is:

fiero_tw@yahoo.com.tw

E-mail me a list of questions you want to ask him, and I'll forward it to my friend in Shanghai. I'll ask him to translate to Mandarin (the common language in Taiwan) and forward to this person.

Dan, good on you to attempt to bring us all together! Now I just need to contemplate on getting the Mera to the mainland. What I'd really like to do is to take the Mera to one of those larger Fiero gatherings (like that Fiero-rama thing they had)...since I'm also a Fiero owner too!

I may take the Mera for a ride today and take a look at this:

http://honolulu.craigslist..../ctd/1834530373.html

Wife says I'm suffering from midlife crisis trauma, stage 3.

Tom
Edit: Rick, I heard back from my friend in Shanghai. See what I posted at the link.




Tom,

Since I am not and exhaust expert, I would want to know how the pipes are tied into the opposite banks and routed. Also what kind of muffler is in the system. I am sure there is one where the convertor goes. Anyone else have questions we could ask.

Dan: The tubi looks great but would one fit in the Fiero compartment with out cutting the trunk floor. How much are these mufflers if you find one that fits? I have a feeling they are major $$$. Thanks for posting the pictures from the Taiwan thread. They look better here that on the original post!

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batousai666 JUL 12, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:


Thats the key....experience with routing, length, and being able to separate the cylinders to where the engine runs great. Think about it from a simple standpoint.....the V6 chugs along because of the firing order and all of the exhaust going into 1 pipe on each side, but what if you could make the chug a constant. That is what the guy did. By separating the middle cylinder of each side and adding a huge length to it, the exhaust sound is now tuned to be nice and even instead of a growl. I have looked at the pictures of this guys routing of the pipes and this guy has so much extra pipe under that car that it goes towards the front of the car and even curves below the oil pan towards the back.




scammed from your Exhaust Thread in the Tech. section Rick hope ypu do not mind?
see it is the separation of the cylinders.....anybody know HOW to do this??
Mike??? i look at you, lovingly. what do you say Buddy? can this be done?
that sound is so F-reaking CAR, its not Funny! its rules!!
that sound is the only thing, next to a HP increase, that Mera X will get to a Real Ferrari 308. totally. nice sound.

would all V6 sound like that, if "tuned" for the Eng? like say maybe, the 3800?
i would settle with the 3.4L -V6, if i could keep that sound.
ohhhh.....does mmy Auto. trans mess with the sound? minus not having the Netural rev, rev......thing?
i like that Mera X is auto. after having the 6 speed in the TA. sooooo much easier to drive. i will leave X auto even after a swap.
i want paddle shifters anyway....whoops thats an F-Car trait. awww....Lambos have paddles too....no harm, no foul!

later
Dan
mera7 JUL 12, 07:59 PM
HELLO, yes i know how to get that sound. i do it all the time. its equal length tubing, equalized back pressure, the proper sized tubes with a good low restriction muffler. i prefer stainless steel myself. to get that sound is not cheap by any means of the word. if it was easy and cheap every one would be doing it. it is expensive materials and very labor indusive. i am sorry not to give away too much information but it is one of the ways i make a living. thanks for understanding guys. mike in oklahoma