I'm in full support of gun ownership, and I fully understand the purpose of gun ownership isn't hunting or self defense... but to keep the Government honest. But how do we stop crazy-people from shooting up public places?
Not that this is Fiero Forum's problem to solve... but just interested in what you guys think?
I don't own any guns, I just don't want the burden of owning one...
I can agree with the white male killings being fricking horrible. But, if you look, these men/children are of mental instability that is recognized, yet unattended to. The way one composes a sentence can tell a lot. A paragraph written can be subject to mass interest by policing agencies. The way one keeps home, or the credit they poses can attest to their standards of life and liberty. There are always signs. Even the Freeman shooter, Caleb Sharpe, can be labeled with such opinion. He was in our home two days before he committed murder in his high school two short years ago. We knew something was amiss, but where do you go when it is only a feeling? I have zero sympathy for those like him and others that will surely follow. No thought other than hate for such monsters. I am OK with addressing my hate in this situation and letting society know where I stand.
I am often hit by those in this community that are of liberal thought. I want them to continue. My life, and the lives of many of my fellow Republicans can be thoroughly vetted and certain rights given due to a life's diligence. If one loses those rights due to fault of their own, then so be it. So be it and so shall it stand.
I say to all that want freedom... Document everything, be thorough in nature, use your rights and the laws around you to better those deserving, and stand your ground.
It is my belief that these shootings are rooted in the “entitlement mentality” that is prevalent in many sectors of society.
I expect that we will find that the Ohio killer was reacting to some perceived rejection.
If you read the El Paso killer’s “manifesto” you will find that he is blaming others for his failures. He claims that big corporations are ruining the environment and stealing his future and that white Europeans stole this land from the indigenous people. If you change “Hispanic” to “European”, you would have the Democratic platform.
The one thing that all of these killers have in common, other than mental illness, is that they believe some other group has stolen what is rightfully theirs. Hitler and Mao rose to power by fostering this belief.
Nothing is rightfully yours until you have earned it.
We need to return to an educational system that is rooted in values that will promote accomplishment rather than victimhood. We need to support an entertainment industry that promotes these values.
Some values, some beliefs, some philosophies are wrong. Some cultures are destructive. Civilization depends on that understanding.
Here is a list of mass shooting in the last 4 years. Just popped up on my news feed. I did see some questionable wording, but a sobering list none the less https://www.latimes.com/wor...-shootings?_amp=true
America is rotting from the inside out, and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important. Due to the death of the baby boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The Democrat party will own America....
The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heaing the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades. For example, this phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations. Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl creates inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The government is unwilling to tackle these issues beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations.
These are the words of the El Paso killer, the guy the main stream media wants you to believe was inspired by Trump.
I've been in that El Paso Walmart many times, anytime I need something I can't get at the 7-11 closer to the hotel. Hoping the victim list doesn't include any coworkers down there.
The citizens are tired of the illegal immigration issue and are finally taking matters into their own hands. It was bound to happen with some extremists. Just like the garlic festival here in Gilroy. It's a shame to see this happen.
So lets see, events in California and Texas minus the State in between. Hopefully Willie's State doesn't join the crowd.
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The citizens are tired of the illegal immigration issue and are finally taking matters into their own hands. It was bound to happen with some extremists. Just like the garlic festival here in Gilroy. It's a shame to see this happen.
So lets see, events in California and Texas minus the State in between. Hopefully Willie's State doesn't join the crowd.
I was surprised that it happened in Texas, but then I remembered Austin in 1966. That was the first such incident that I recall in my lifetime.
I would like to think that it wouldn't happen here, but it already has. We had the incident in Tucson in 2011.
Word in Ohio is the Dayton shooter had some problem with his own sister, who is among those he killed.
I can understand that no one in the Dayton bar was armed, but find it hard to believe there were not a bunch of people in a full Walmart...in Texas...that were not armed.
What needs to be done is finding a way to prevent these killers, which seem to be all younger white guys, from getting access to guns. Any gun control will not have stopped them. The truth is MORE citizens should be carrying guns, CCP or not, not less. A radio program this morning had a viewer comment on the Texas restaurant shooting a few years back. There, people were not allowed to have a weapon in the restaurant. Many there had guns, but left them in their cars and left the whole restaurant wide open for any attack. These morons know that people cant have guns in some states, or some places and therefore they know no ones there that might shoot back. They are all cowards. They go into a place where they know everyone is unarmed with multiple guns and ammo magazines ready for a turkey shoot. I myself know if I wanted to kill multiple people and be safe doing it, id go straight to somewhere I know is packed with people and no weapons are allowed....duhhh.
I can agree with the white male killings being fricking horrible. But, if you look, these men/children are of mental instability that is recognized, yet unattended to. The way one composes a sentence can tell a lot. A paragraph written can be subject to mass interest by policing agencies. The way one keeps home, or the credit they poses can attest to their standards of life and liberty. There are always signs. Even the Freeman shooter, Caleb Sharpe, can be labeled with such opinion. He was in our home two days before he committed murder in his high school two short years ago. We knew something was amiss, but where do you go when it is only a feeling? I have zero sympathy for those like him and others that will surely follow. No thought other than hate for such monsters. I am OK with addressing my hate in this situation and letting society know where I stand.
I am often hit by those in this community that are of liberal thought. I want them to continue. My life, and the lives of many of my fellow Republicans can be thoroughly vetted and certain rights given due to a life's diligence. If one loses those rights due to fault of their own, then so be it. So be it and so shall it stand.
I say to all that want freedom... Document everything, be thorough in nature, use your rights and the laws around you to better those deserving, and stand your ground.
I know... and honestly, I started reading the guy's manifesto, and I agreed with the first 1/3rd of it in theory until he started talking about killing, race and all kinds of other crazy **** . The Democrats are obviously trying to flood the country with poverty for the sole purpose of maintaining a dependency class of impoverished citizens that they can rely on for vote. The goal, very obviously, is to ensure a liberal rule so they can implement socialism. They try to portray the idea that they care about poor people, which we know they don't. But, there are a lot of morons who think that's what the point of this is, so they go along with it.
The big difference between liberals and Conservatives I think is, the Liberals are only thinking about themselves... they want all the free stuff, while the Conservatives believe their ideals will the means for people to make themselves successful (at least this is how I feel). I don't vote for a President, Senator, or Congressman because I want something out of it personally... I vote for someone because I think they're going to uphold American Constitutional values.
It absolutely sucks because the Democrats immediately use this to their advantage, and it probably encourages others to copy-cat this psychotic behavior. I know many of you on here are atheists, and that's TOTALLY your right. But most of the people they're allowing to stream into this country are Catholic (South America is 97% Catholic, and Central America is 89% Catholic). As a Hispanic myself... I too am Catholic, so I'm *happy* at least the morals are generally understood, and Hispanics are very religious. But the liberals are baiting these poor people on the idea of greed and victim ideology... it sets a precedence for many of these people to believe they are owed something, and it totally upsets the concept of work ethic that our country is founded on.
I know most people think of Mexicans as really hard working people who are willing to do anything and everything, wearing plaid shirts and working hard in the field for minimal pay because... they're just happy to have a job. There ARE many Mexican-Americans who feel that way, and THAT IS the kind of work ethic we want in our country. But... the people who are coming over the border now are very often not of the same mindset. They have an entitlement mentality, and I see it constantly here in San Antonio.
Anyway... we're in a tough situation now... I guarantee to you that Trump is going to be forced to make a decision... if he's not personally encouraged to do so, he will have political pressure to do so.
If I was president... I'd call a meeting of all the groups...
1 - The Anti-Gun Lobby 2 - The NRA and Pro-Gun Lobby 3 - Health and Human Services 4 - The American Psychological Association
I'd have them all go into a room with my aides, and I'd tell them... come up with some comprehensive ideas that are fair for everyone that can help solve our problems. This isn't time for you guys to bicker and stand your ground... you both need to come up with some common sense ideas. Keep Congress totally out of it, and then present the UNIFIED findings (consensus agreed by all) to the public, and Congress, and ask them to legislate... whatever that might end up being.
I trust the NRA, and I trust that they wouldn't yield where it wasn't inappropriate to do so. This is clearly a mental-illness problem... NOT a gun problem.
Besides... we're less than a decade away from people being able to 3D print and home-assemble a laser hand-gun... and then none of these laws make a bit of difference anymore.
I'm in full support of gun ownership, and I fully understand the purpose of gun ownership isn't hunting or self defense... but to keep the Government honest. But how do we stop crazy-people from shooting up public places?
Not that this is Fiero Forum's problem to solve... but just interested in what you guys think?
I don't own any guns, I just don't want the burden of owning one...
Anyone unwilling or unprepared to defend themselves, their loved ones and even the Liberals in the area are simply Victims waiting to be slaughtered. Don't be a Victim. Eventually, you will have an opportunity to defend yourself or, someone else.
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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
My wife told me to grow up. I told her to get out of my fort!
I can understand that no one in the Dayton bar was armed, but find it hard to believe there were not a bunch of people in a full Walmart...in Texas...that were not armed.
El Paso is ~90% Mexican (probably why someone from Dallas chose it as a target), and any Mexican carrying a gun is assumed to be part of the cartels or people smuggling just south of the border in Juarez, and the local VERY white cops all have that typical Texas cop attitude. You wouldn't want to be caught with one, regardless of your legal ability to carry. The only people you see open carrying are wanna-be cowboys, usually not from Texas, with cowboy hats and driving Toyota pickup trucks. I've never seen the local soldiers carrying, although that may change now.
There's another Walmart closer to Fort Bliss the soldiers tend to all shop at. This Walmart is in a slightly upscale shopping center a bit further away, south of the airport.
Anyone unwilling or unprepared to defend themselves, their loved ones and even the Liberals in the area are simply Victims waiting to be slaughtered. Don't be a Victim. Eventually, you will have an opportunity to defend yourself or, someone else.
El Paso is ~90% Mexican (probably why someone from Dallas chose it as a target), and any Mexican carrying a gun is assumed to be part of the cartels or people smuggling just south of the border in Juarez, and the local VERY white cops all have that typical Texas cop attitude. You wouldn't want to be caught with one, regardless of your legal ability to carry. The only people you see open carrying are wanna-be cowboys, usually not from Texas, with cowboy hats and driving Toyota pickup trucks. I've never seen the local soldiers carrying, although that may change now.
There's another Walmart closer to Fort Bliss the soldiers tend to all shop at. This Walmart is in a slightly upscale shopping center a bit further away, south of the airport.
Now, that makes sense. Thanks for the perspective.
El Paso is ~90% Mexican (probably why someone from Dallas chose it as a target), and any Mexican carrying a gun is assumed to be part of the cartels or people smuggling just south of the border in Juarez, and the local VERY white cops all have that typical Texas cop attitude. You wouldn't want to be caught with one, regardless of your legal ability to carry. The only people you see open carrying are wanna-be cowboys, usually not from Texas, with cowboy hats and driving Toyota pickup trucks. I've never seen the local soldiers carrying, although that may change now.
There's another Walmart closer to Fort Bliss the soldiers tend to all shop at. This Walmart is in a slightly upscale shopping center a bit further away, south of the airport.
Military are *totally* not allowed to carry. The only people on a military base who can carry are the MPs. Even most military installations have rules that say you can't bring your own weapons (in your car) on base... despite the fact that there was recently a ruling that said otherwise. It's typically up to the base commander.
You'd think having military around would make you safer, but it doesn't at all. The only time military would engage is if there's literally a shooting ON the military base, in which case they'd have a rapid-response from the MPs.
But military people on their own, when not in uniform, can carry off-base.
It appears that the Dayton killer was also an avowed leftist and satanist, supported AOC and opposed law enforcement and Trump. His sister was one of his victims.
These people are told that someone else is responsible for their failures and are being whipped into a murderous frenzy by irresponsible partisan rhetoric. The news media and the politicians need to understand that there are mentally ill people among us and should exercise discretion when speaking.
Self control will be much more effective than gun control.
Again and again this happens, blame is laid upon those not guilty, then the gun is bad mantra, then the guy comes out as a liberal and the story goes away until the next one. Everything has been about Christ Church or some other issue before the truth comes out.
Dayton shooter killed his sister.
Many dead white folks at WalMart.
Neil deGrassi Tyson is being torn apart on Twitter ( ) for stating FACTS.
The media immediately tells us different. It explains that white supremacy or some other BS is the issue. My guns will never hurt anyone unless they ask for it. Those around me feels the same. A war is at hand, and the summer's heat will bring change. I stand firm and I am not on the hunt. Only prepared for self defense.
I earlier read a great quote. "Humans are not as civil as advertised."
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Anyone unwilling or unprepared to defend themselves, their loved ones and even the Liberals in the area are simply Victims waiting to be slaughtered. Don't be a Victim. Eventually, you will have an opportunity to defend yourself or, someone else.
The value of human life. The abortion laws in New York for example. We've been teaching kids human life has no value. Among a multitude of other downward spirals, like the dissolving of the family.
My wife, who's a Democrat, but refuses to vote for Socialists (and so voted for Trump), is telling me that a psychiatric evaluation should be required before you can get a gun.
So I told her, according to who, and by who's measurement would a psychiatric evaluation be conclusive? Does the APA have a specific test they feel is valid for determining this? What happens when you have ultra-liberals who seek out to manage and change the variables and conditions for passing such a psychiatric evaluation? So I told her, this could immediately be used / leveraged by left-leaning politicians to restrict gun ownership to everyone, so a no go in my book.
I am quite sure something is going to have to happen. Trump isn't being quiet right now because he doesn't know what to do. I'm quite sure he's looking into options. It's frustrating.
The last thing I want is for the United States to end up like Honduras, where every store in Tegucigalpa has someone with a shotgun standing outside because the place is so ****ed up.
My wife, who's a Democrat, but refuses to vote for Socialists (and so voted for Trump), is telling me that a psychiatric evaluation should be required before you can get a gun.
So I told her, according to who, and by who's measurement would a psychiatric evaluation be conclusive? Does the APA have a specific test they feel is valid for determining this? What happens when you have ultra-liberals who seek out to manage and change the variables and conditions for passing such a psychiatric evaluation? So I told her, this could immediately be used / leveraged by left-leaning politicians to restrict gun ownership to everyone, so a no go in my book.
I am quite sure something is going to have to happen. Trump isn't being quiet right now because he doesn't know what to do. I'm quite sure he's looking into options. It's frustrating.
The last thing I want is for the United States to end up like Honduras, where every store in Tegucigalpa has someone with a shotgun standing outside because the place is so ****ed up.
This is social and mental health problem.
It is not a political problem.
Watch carefully for those who try to use these tragedies for political benefit. Those are the people that really don't give a damn about the victims and see these heinous acts as "opportunities".
A leftist's answer to any social problem is invariably more government.
A leftist's answer to any failure of government is invariably even more government.
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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
My wife told me to grow up. I told her to get out of my fort!
..."These are the words of the El Paso killer, the guy the main stream media wants you to believe was inspired by Trump."
the media neglects to tell everyone he was a staunch liberal supporter, and specifically supported Elizabeth Warren. being such, would not have been in anyway pro Trump.
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It is my belief that these shootings are rooted in the “entitlement mentality” that is prevalent in many sectors of society.
I expect that we will find that the Ohio killer was reacting to some perceived rejection.
If you read the El Paso killer’s “manifesto” you will find that he is blaming others for his failures. He claims that big corporations are ruining the environment and stealing his future and that white Europeans stole this land from the indigenous people. If you change “Hispanic” to “European”, you would have the Democratic platform.
The one thing that all of these killers have in common, other than mental illness, is that they believe some other group has stolen what is rightfully theirs. Hitler and Mao rose to power by fostering this belief.
Nothing is rightfully yours until you have earned it.
We need to return to an educational system that is rooted in values that will promote accomplishment rather than victimhood. We need to support an entertainment industry that promotes these values.
Some values, some beliefs, some philosophies are wrong. Some cultures are destructive. Civilization depends on that understanding.
Good points.
I'll add that kids raised with two loving parents who stay together have a foundation of support, and an example to look upon as to how to live. A rare thing, and getting rarer.
One could say psychiatric drugs are a cause. We as a society seem to have decided we will not look at the reasons so many people are on these drugs, we will just keep pumping out the drugs. This was a poor decision.
One easy to understand take on things that I found easily. There is ALOT of data out there:
This was talked about over 6 years ago, nothing seems to have been done. There is an anti gun agenda that is being pushed instead.
I'll add that kids raised with two loving parents who stay together have a foundation of support, and an example to look upon as to how to live. A rare thing, and getting rarer.
Thank you.
Yes, kids need someone to talk to, someone they can trust who will listen patiently and non judgmentally, and who will provide positive, constructive guidance. The rapid breakdown of the family unit and the entitlement mentality were both products of LBJ’s “Great Society”.
More mental health problems in this generation of kids. Think their kids will be better? I don't actually think its the schools responsibility to raise good kids in a loving home. Though schools do need to take action of their own, there are relationships there as well.
Watch carefully for those who try to use these tragedies for political benefit. Those are the people that really don't give a damn about the victims and see these heinous acts as "opportunities".
A leftist's answer to any social problem is invariably more government.
A leftist's answer to any failure of government is invariably even more government.
Well... you know me, this is the most frustrating aspect of it.
The liberal mindset... and when I say "liberal mindset" I mean the clueless voter. Anyway, the liberal mindset can be best described using a Chinese word which most of us on here have heard of... Baizou.
Baizuo: Meaning quite literally "White Left," is used to describe those who only care about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT, the environment and other social justice topics. These individuals have no sense of real problems in the real world; they are hypocritical humanitarians who advocate for peace and equality only to satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority; they are “obsessed with political correctness to the extent that they tolerate backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism; they believe in the welfare state that benefits only the idle and the free riders; they are the ignorant and arrogant westerners who pity the rest of the world and think they are saviors.
Now, that said, the "leaders" of these leftists are not as willfully ignorant as their followers, there is a very real purpose for what they do... and eliminating gun ownership is the only thing that can ensure the progression of a leftward slide in the United States and the eventual destruction of our Constitution.
Do you think Venezuela would still have the problems it does today if gun ownership was a thing? Maduro passed a gun-ban law in Venezuela back in... what... 2011, 2012? Just when things were really starting to get hot over there. At this point, if the citizens still had guns, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
But yes... the liberals are already out there blaming Trump, Guns, and everything other than the actual problem.
Nihilism (/ˈnaɪ(h)ɪlɪzəm, ˈniː-/; ) is the philosophical viewpoint that suggests the denial of, or lack of belief in, the reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.[1] Moral nihilists assert that there is no inherent morality, and that accepted moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism may also take epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or reality does not actually exist.
It's not the gun. It's not video games. It's not upbringing. It's not religion. It's not politics. It's not music. It's not race. It's not environment. It's not culture.
It's the person, it's a bad brain.
An excuse is just that; an excuse.
Much like picking convenient blame to suit your ideals. Why are some Americans so obsessed with finding out if the perpetrator was a "Conservative", or "Liberal"? It's nothing more than politicizing a tragedy to suit one's own emotional need to provide evidence of the righteousness of "their side".
"He didn't shoot them, they did." Brilliant.
There are all kinds of "bad" brains...
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There are studies that show a sociopath for example, many times doesn't fully develop into a problem for society if they have a good upbringing, a foundation, meaning, people to rely on, especially when young.
I think he's making good sense what he's saying. I don't want to discount the religious aspect of this discussion, because as a devote Catholic, there are certainly things which would take issue with these actions.
I do *understand* the thought that goes through these people's minds. If I'm going to channel my celebrity psychology family lineage (Karl Jaspers) in trying to understand the logic here... I'd probably say these people feel that, as the speaker is saying, they've reached a point where they've run out of options.
I'd have to assume of course there's more going on there, because a chemically "normal" person would continue to look for options... can I fix my situation, are there any options I have? I dunno... psychosis tends to fester, but there has to be an imbalance first. Whether we want to admit it or not... we've all wanted to get revenge at times. While my Christian values sometimes succeed in convincing me to take the high road (and usually leads to a positive outcome), there are other times where I've allowed myself to really get drawn into my own misery and I'd want to do something. Now, a sane person, once you reach that point, you consider consequences, the Golden rule, etc... and again... any sane person would prevent themselves from going down whatever that path is.
I can't say I've *ever* thought about shooting a place up. Though I have had dreams where I've magically teleported next to... Vladamir Putin, Ayatolla, Hitler, or Kim Jung Un... and I've got a gun. Answer is simple... I'm dead either way, might as well take one for my country and solve a problem. But here's where I think what the speaker says is flawed... no sane person would ever contemplate shooting up a bunch of innocent people. That's just not a thing. I grew up with Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake, etc... so I experienced violent games just as much as the next younger Gen-Xer, or any of the Millennials. Hell... I even hacked the SpectraVision box in the hotel that my father managed, and had full access to pornography from 11-12 until my parents found out. So I've been exposed to all kinds of trash... and still, never once thought about shooting up or blowing up anything.
I agree with a lot of what he says, and I know people can allow themselves to get to a dark point in their lives... but there's a difference between sane and insane. No sane person believes mass-murder is a solution to anything.
Going back to a point I made earlier... and is quite appropriate for this forum. One instance where I didn't retaliate, when I knew I had every option at my disposal to. I had 4 Fieros at one point. Three of them were in really nice condition, one not so much. There was a kid who I knew, friend of a friend... he was insanely jealous of me. I don't know what he thought... we were both living in ghetto Davie, Florida. But he believed somehow that I was super-wealthy and he hated me for it. Lol... I had 4 Fieros in the late 1990s. My 87 SE, an 84 2m4 SE, an 85 GT, and an 86 SE. Anyway... he snuck into my apartment complex one night, and keyed all four of my Fieros. Big long scratches and gouges all up and down the paint. There was some absolute hate that he had.
He bragged about it to one of our mutual friends, who confided in me that this guy had done it, and he would be willing to state it on record to police if I wanted to file a charge. I was really angry, but I consider the fact... his dad died of cancer, and his mom was a crack whore. He had been living with friends, and he was doing gay stuff with an older guy who was manipulating him and letting him stay with him. Weird.... weird **** . Total classic town of Davie kind of stuff.
So... I told him I knew it was him, and I told him I wasn't going to press charges because I knew his life was messed up, and I hoped things would work out for him in the end. I knew that it would end up being a felony in the state of Florida due to the damage it caused, and he would end up going to jail. The guy was totally cocky, whatever... told me to **** off. I just shrugged it off. Years later... a mutual friend died, and we both showed up to the funeral. He was all apologizes... asked me if I still had the cars (I have my original 87 SE), and told me that he had turned his life around, and he was so sorry and it bothered him, blah blah...
So, made me feel good I suppose. But I totally would have rather cracked him in the nuts and called the police on him, but in the end... I think it worked out for the best.
IMO our culture is breeding crazy people. Taking everyone's guns away won't make people any less crazy. Addressing the real problem will require taking a hard look at American culture. And I think a lot of people will be upset by the findings.
I also get the impression that leftists don't really want to fix the problem, because it gives them an excuse to campaign for gun control. As callous as that may sound, that's how leftists behave. Their number one priority is to further their ideology.
I don't doubt there are insane people. Measuring them may prove difficult. Especially in this day and age where we are told to reinforce some individuals and certain types of disorders, as if they are perfectly normal.
"First Known Use of insanity 1590, in the meaning defined: a severely disordered state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder"
We live in a time where if a male wants to dress like a female and use the little girl's room, we must honor his preference, but if he supports his country and its president, he is a violent fascist.
Do we really want to give the government the power to deny the constitutionally guaranteed right of a U.S. citizen based on a definition of sanity agreed upon by politicians?
I just learned that the Ohio killer was part of a subculture so vile that I cannot even begin to describe it. Charles Manson would likely have found it revolting.
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