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Iowa Governor lifts all COVID restrictions by blackrams
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Something I came across



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I would like to see some context to that graph, as it seems a bit askew .
Is the flu part an overall summary of average flu years or specific to the 2019/2020 flu season?

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Originally posted by maryjane:


I would like to see some context to that graph, as it seems a bit askew .
Is the flu part an overall summary of average flu years or specific to the 2019/2020 flu season?


I would invite you to visit the CDC website for that information. I honestly can't answer that question.

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Originally posted by blackrams:


I would invite you to visit the CDC website for that information. I honestly can't answer that question.

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I did, which is why I asked for more context. The graph doesn't match what CDC's stats for 2019/2020 flu season shows nor what the weekly stats for both flu and Covid show.

The information used to make that graph appear to be nearly a year old. It states: "US Data as of March 18 2020".
On that date, there were less than 200 total deaths from Covid in the USA.

Scroll down to the graphs:
https://www.worldometers.in...onavirus/country/us/


I didn't see that particular graph (the one you shared) anywhere on CDC's website tho the note at the bottom of the graph you posted says it came from there in some form. "CDC: CDC Covid Response Team"
It also says 'Insider', so it may be a home grown graph using some kind of data from CDC but the graph itself is made by Business Insider?

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I suspect that if one wishes to look long and hard enough, one can find a graph or information to support their own perspective.
I won't argue either way on the graphs. Just something I happen to come across I thought was interesting.

If, the science doesn't back it up, then dis-regard it.

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Originally posted by blackrams:

I suspect that if one wishes to look long and hard enough, one can find a graph or information to support their own perspective.
I won't argue either way on the graphs. Just something I happen to come across I thought was interesting.

If, the science doesn't back it up, then dis-regard it.

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If, the science doesn't back it up, then dis-regard it.

Exactly!

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Exactly!


Please don't interpret that last statement as any thing to support anyone's position. The first sentence is just as applicable.

 
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Originally posted by blackrams:

I suspect that if one wishes to look long and hard enough, one can find a graph or information to support their own perspective.

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If, the science doesn't back it up, then dis-regard it.

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I'm not interested in finding graphs or information to support 'anyone's (including my own 'perspective').
I'm interested in data that supports science.
It is only from science that I can & will have a realistic perspective.
All else is just hyperbole and rhetoric trying to support the unsupportable.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

I'm not interested in finding graphs or information to support 'anyone's (including my own 'perspective').
I'm interested in data that supports science.
It is only from science that I can & will have a realistic perspective.
All else is just hyperbole and rhetoric trying to support the unsupportable.




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One month later, what should we make of this?: https://coronavirus.iowa.go...come-analysis-deaths



More charts/graphs at the link.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

One month later, what should we make of this?: https://coronavirus.iowa.go...come-analysis-deaths



More charts/graphs at the link.


I would interpret it as folks are finally taking this threat seriously and trying to follow CDC guidelines combined with COVID-19 vaccinations.
But, that's just my opinion.
I don't buy into the total deaths thing the media is still pushing, there is a difference between dying of and dying with COVID. But, the lessened hospitalizations is huge. None of what I say should suggest that I don't think COVID-19 is a serious virus and believe we should all take precautions to subdue it's effects.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

One month later, what should we make of this?: https://coronavirus.iowa.go...come-analysis-deaths



More charts/graphs at the link.


That covid flu has run its course just as the 1918 flu did and this is the outcome reguardless of the things tried to slow it including masks and "social distancing".
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With a 99.9% survival rate it might be hard to tell.


...and making the assumption that 100% of infections have been accounted for. Logistically that's impossible. Much easier to believe the infection numbers were 3-4 times what is 'known.'

I had it and have the test results to prove it and while I was miserable for about nine days - possibly from the steroids and antibiotics prescribed because of my history of pneumonia - it was not the sickest I've been.

Every case is an infection, not every infection is a case. Pandemics are over when people say they are over.
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Texas lifts COVID emergency order and mask mandate.

Texas is open for business.
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Texas lifts COVID emergency order and mask mandate.

Texas is open for business.


Does that mean I can go about what I have been doing all along, ?

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Does that mean I can go about what I have been doing all along, ?


Looks like Freedom is back on the menu!
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I would interpret it as folks are finally taking this threat seriously and trying to follow CDC guidelines combined with COVID-19 vaccinations.
But, that's just my opinion.
I don't buy into the total deaths thing the media is still pushing, there is a difference between dying of and dying with COVID. But, the lessened hospitalizations is huge. None of what I say should suggest that I don't think COVID-19 is a serious virus and believe we should all take precautions to subdue it's effects.

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There have not yet been enough people immunized nor has there been enough time pass for immunizations to make any statistical difference in infection or hospitalization rates. Only about 10% of the adult US population have been vaccinated as of yesterday.
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Originally posted by maryjane:
Only about 10% of the adult US population have been vaccinated as of yesterday.


Biden promised 100 million shots in arms in his first 100 days. He was told that we, under the Trump administration, were going to be there any ways, so he upped it to 150 million.

Just the other day Biden was bragging he had got to 50 million. One seventh of the US population. That's more than ten percent.
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Originally posted by Wichita:
Texas lifts COVID emergency order and mask mandate.

Texas is open for business.




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Biden promised 100 million shots in arms in his first 100 days. He was told that we, under the Trump administration, were going to be there any ways, so he upped it to 150 million.

Just the other day Biden was bragging he had got to 50 million. One seventh of the US population. That's more than ten percent.


Biden and you, can say whatever you want to. He was referring to "at least 1 shot', which for much of the populous is not the whole enchilada.
https://www.usnews.com/news...ated-for-coronavirus
 
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Biden marks 50 million COVID-19 vaccinations across the US .
2 days ago — The total number of people in the US who've received at least one dose, ... President Joe Biden says that 50 million coronavirus vaccine shots .
..

It's like being pregnant. No such thing as being partly pregnant nor is being partly vaccinated the same as getting both shots.

https://www.cnet.com/health...tions-across-the-us/

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Was told today that a couple more states lifted all restrictions.

https://www.aol.com/news/fa...demic-180553773.html

Apparently my new home state (Mississippi) is one of them.

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Originally posted by blackrams:
Apparently my new home state (Mississippi) is one of them.


Biden called us the "N" word. Neanderthals. An insult is an insult.
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Neanderthals had larger brains but believed to be slower. Mixing with them is where Whites and Asians got an altered portion of the inner brain, a change that allows a widened reasoning.ability.

Did we get Neanderthal privilege?

Oh, hundreds have now died from the covid RNA experimental gene therapy drug.

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Oh, hundreds have now died from the covid RNA experimental gene therapy drug.



Hundreds? Hadn't heard that but, a few with bad reactions won't surprise me, not everyone has the same reaction. Some folks are allergic to peanuts, most aren't.
Haven't seen any data to back up the hundreds claim but, I have seen data showing millions have been vaccinated.

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Thousands have had adverse reactions.
If it's not on the agenda, then agenda sources aren't going to propagate it.

I never showed an allergy to peanuts until recently. It's mild.

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joe says that this type of loosening of restrictions is "Neanderthal". Way to go there "party of unification".
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joe says that this type of loosening of restrictions is "Neanderthal". Way to go there "party of unification".

At the end of today's (March 4) "11th Hour" on MSNBC, anchor Brian Williams had some fun with that, airing brief clips of things that Trump has said in front of microphones or on Twitter. When he had access to Twitter.

But I didn't come here to "talk o’ gin and beer." I came to talk about Texas Governor Greg Abbott. CNN's Chris Cuomo and Dr Ashish Jha from Brown University were (trying to) "torch" Texas Governor Abbott over his highly publicized "opening" of Texas.

What caught my attention the most was this: Texas Gov. Abbott stalled federal offer to test migrants [for Covid] then blamed them for spreading Covid.
 
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"The Biden administration has been releasing immigrants in south Texas that have been exposing Texans to Covid," Abbott, a Republican, said in a CNBC interview Thursday.

I dunno. Is there something to that? Should I look to Fox News or Newsmax or some of the more "red" (as in Red State) online venues to get the full story about this?

Here's two more current CNN reports (text) if anyone wants to scroll quickly through some "Fake News."

"Texas Gov. Abbott faces backlash after lifting coronavirus restrictions"
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03...-handling/index.html

"'It's too soon for it': Small business owners react to Texas dropping mask mandate"
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03...-19-masks/index.html

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Biden called us the "N" word. Neanderthals. An insult is an insult.


It's a different day. Now, Mr "B" says he did not call us Neanderthals. That we were just using Neanderthal thinking.

Is he using Black thinking or Brown thinking ?
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https://www.cbsnews.com/new...ssissippi-retailers/

 
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Despite the push to reopen, Texas and Mississippi residents will still need to wear face masks if they want to step inside many supermarkets and other large retail chains. The retailers, which include Kroger, Target and Walgreens, cited guidelines from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in continuing to require masks and take other measures to protect workers and consumers from the virus.

"There is no change at this time to the company mask mandate policy or any current safety protocols that are in place in our stores or any work locations to protect our customers and team members. We are following current CDC and OSHA guidelines regarding safety protocols," a spokesperson for Walgreens said in an email.


I view this as the Retailer's right, it's their property and they can set the rules. If I don't like it, there's always another store around the corner.

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