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LT. General Michael Flynn by randye
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AS EXPECTED:

Their Patience Ran Out

Federal District Court of Appeals Hands Down Writ of Mandamus

ORDERS Judge to DISMISS Flynn case.




https://www.politico.com/ne...smiss-charges-337751

California mental patient among the most devastated by this announcement.

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It is not over !

The ruling paves the way and perhaps provides the transportation for General Flynn to sue and recoupe damages, in the millions.
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It is not over !

The ruling paves the way and perhaps provides the transportation for General Flynn to sue and recoupe damages, in the millions.



And he would deserve it. The man is in significant debt, and has had to sell most of his assets to pay for legal fees. He still has his O9 retirement income, which is no small penance, but he's lost all the wealth he's built over his lifetime just because of this stupid liberal lawsuit.
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And he would deserve it. The man is in significant debt, and has had to sell most of his assets to pay for legal fees. He still has his O9 retirement income, which is no small penance, but he's lost all the wealth he's built over his lifetime just because of this stupid liberal lawsuit.

He should be suing Obama and Biden. They are the architects of his demise. Instead, his reward will be funded by money confiscated from you and me. He does deserve to be made whole again, though.
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This was a complete failure of Justice. Its why numerous people in the DOJ, his Alma matter, and many others are speaking out against Barr. Theyre going after watchdogs and anyone who stands in their way.

Flynn plead guilty multiple times of his crimes.

But in Trumpsters minds, they HAVE to be the poor little victims, they're almost never at fault for their actions.

Trump could break into the national archives and set the constitution on fire and his slurpers would say its the security guards that need to be arrested because he didn't stop Trump. They would then praise Trump saying he had the guts to pull that stunt.

If Obama was doing this stuff at the DOJ, randeye would have stroked out. Trump does it and he cheers.
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Flynn plead guilty multiple times of his crimes.



What "crimes" ?

Try to be specific.....I'll wait.


 
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If Obama was doing this stuff at the DOJ, randeye would have stroked out. Trump does it and he cheers.



Let's talk about General James E. Cartwright shall we?

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Originally posted by RandomTask:

This was a complete failure of Justice. Its why numerous people in the DOJ, his Alma matter, and many others are speaking out against Barr. Theyre going after watchdogs and anyone who stands in their way.

Flynn plead guilty multiple times of his crimes.

But in Trumpsters minds, they HAVE to be the poor little victims, they're almost never at fault for their actions.

Trump could break into the national archives and set the constitution on fire and his slurpers would say its the security guards that need to be arrested because he didn't stop Trump. They would then praise Trump saying he had the guts to pull that stunt.

If Obama was doing this stuff at the DOJ, randeye would have stroked out. Trump does it and he cheers.


U.S. v. Michael T. Flynn (1:17-cr-232, District of Columbia)
 
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Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn (Ret.), of Alexandria, Va., pleaded guilty on Dec. 1, 2017, to making false statements to FBI agents, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001.


SOURCE
Special Counsel's Office, U.S. Department of Justice
https://www.justice.gov/sco


SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS
Criminal Information
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015026/download

Plea Agreement
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015121/download

Statement of the Offense
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

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SOURCE
Special Counsel's Office, U.S. Department of Justice
https://www.justice.gov/sco


SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS
Criminal Information
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015026/download

Plea Agreement
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015121/download

Statement of the Offense
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download



What you fail to mention is that government entrapment is not a crime.

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Proving that even a blind, mentally ill, squirrel occasionally gathers a nut, our resident California mental patient has demonstrated that Lt. General Flynn was charged with ONE process crime. NOT "crimes", plural, as insisted on by his TDS infected, fellow traveler.

Moreover, the "nut" gathered by California mental patient nut ALSO demonstrates that Lt. General Flynn pled guilty to that ONE process crime ONE TIME and not "multiple times" as also alleged by the TDS peanut gallery.

When more facts were eventually brought forward that manifestly made it clear that the ONE process crime for which Lt. General Flynn was charged was the result of the interview by the FBI which was “untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn…. Conducted without any legitimate investigative basis”. Additionally, Flynn’s statements were "not material, even if untrue”.

In short, NO ACTUAL CRIME WAS EVER COMMITTED, and it was yet ANOTHER FRAUD by The California mental patient's "Legendary Lawman", Mueller and his circus of partisan hack monkeys.

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This was a complete failure of Justice. Its why numerous people in the DOJ, his Alma matter, and many others are speaking out against Barr. Theyre going after watchdogs and anyone who stands in their way.

Flynn plead guilty multiple times of his crimes.

But in Trumpsters minds, they HAVE to be the poor little victims, they're almost never at fault for their actions.

Trump could break into the national archives and set the constitution on fire and his slurpers would say its the security guards that need to be arrested because he didn't stop Trump. They would then praise Trump saying he had the guts to pull that stunt.

If Obama was doing this stuff at the DOJ, randeye would have stroked out. Trump does it and he cheers.


What you fail to mention is that government entrapment is not a crime. Therefore the travesty of justice and the subsequent dismissal of charges.
Now wrap your head around that before you go crying to the world.
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"GOVERNMENT ENTRAPMENT" in the Michael Flynn case.
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"GOVERNMENT ENTRAPMENT" in the Michael Flynn case.


Yes, is this new to you? Has MSNBC failed to inform you? Rachel Madow still talking about Russia?
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... the panel’s decision is plainly wrong and the en banc court of appeals will almost certainly reverse it if the case reaches that stage.

"The Deeply Concerning, Misguided D.C. Circuit Mandamus Ruling in the Flynn Case"

Marty Lederman for Just Security; June 24, 2020.
https://www.justsecurity.or...g-in-the-flynn-case/

I can't think of anyone who called himself "Marty" that ever did me wrong.

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Originally posted by randye:

Proving that even a blind, mentally ill, squirrel occasionally gathers a nut, our resident California mental patient has demonstrated that Lt. General Flynn was charged with ONE process crime. NOT "crimes", plural, as insisted on by his TDS infected, fellow traveler.

Moreover, the "nut" gathered by California mental patient nut ALSO demonstrates that Lt. General Flynn pled guilty to that ONE process crime ONE TIME and not "multiple times" as also alleged by the TDS peanut gallery.

When more facts were eventually brought forward that manifestly made it clear that the ONE process crime for which Lt. General Flynn was charged was the result of the interview by the FBI which was “untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn…. Conducted without any legitimate investigative basis”. Additionally, Flynn’s statements were "not material, even if untrue”.

In short, NO ACTUAL CRIME WAS EVER COMMITTED, and it was yet ANOTHER FRAUD by The California mental patient's "Legendary Lawman", Mueller and his circus of partisan hack monkeys.




Thank you, forum member "randye", for wrapping up in one neat little package what a f*cking crippled moron you really are. Crippled in mind as well as in body. These recent comments from forum member "randye" would have been f*cking lunatic even if it were myself--"rinselberg"--that made the comments about the coronavirus that forum member "randye" stupidly attributed to me.

As this screen capture documents, it was some other forum member that made those comments about the coronavirus. Those "drool-level insanity" [sic] comments about the coronavirus.

This is Exhibit A in how forum member "randye" has defecated all over the Posting Guidelines (and all over any imaginable concept of an open discussion forum) for the last umpteen years.

Instead of wasting ever more of his time here, going on about "rinselberg", forum member "randye" needs to get his azz on over to the VA facility, so they can put him and his wheelchair up on a vehicle hoist and get under there and pull his miserable, f*cked-up head and the apparently stroke-damaged brain that's inside of that head out of his rectum.

After all, he's an armed forces veteran. He's entitled to this service. "Scheduled Maintenance."

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Thank you, forum member "randye",



 
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I can't think of anyone who called himself "Marty"
that ever did me wrong
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Your new "BFF Marty" wrote paragraph after paragraph blowing smoke up your ignorant, mentally ill, ass and you, like the dutiful little psychotic, propagandist you are, PUKED it back here with your usual cut & paste "style".

Your new BFF Marty intentionally NEVER mentioned the controlling law / stare decisis that FORCES judge Sullivan to DISMISS without further Leftist nonsense.

UNITED STATES v. SINENENG-SMITH
, unanimous decision by SCOTUS written by none other than DEMOCRAT Justice Ruth "Buzzi" Ginsburg

Your new BFF Marty also intentionally FAILS to mention more controlling law in: UNITED STATES v. FOKKER SERVICES B.V. majority decision written by DEMOCRAT Judge Sri Srinivasan, a 2013 OBAMA appointee to THE SAME Federal District Court of Appeals that just handed judge Sullivan the Writ of Mandamus.

Even in the unlikely event this does go to an en banc hearing, Judge Sirinivasan, is NOT going to reverse himself and neither are the 2 other DEMOCRAT judges that decided that case.

Your new BFF Marty lied to you and you are too moronic and psychotic to realize it.

YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL RONALD

GET HELP SOON BEFORE YOU HARM YOURSELF OR OTHERS


You're Welcome

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"The Deeply Concerning, Misguided D.C. Circuit Mandamus Ruling in the Flynn Case"

Marty Lederman for Just Security; June 24, 2020.
https://www.justsecurity.or...g-in-the-flynn-case/

I can't think of anyone who called himself "Marty" that ever did me wrong.



DC Circuit Orders Rogue Trial Judge to Dismiss Flynn Case

https://www.dailysignal.com...dge-to-dismiss-case/

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What you fail to mention is that government entrapment is not a crime. Therefore the travesty of justice and the subsequent dismissal of charges.
Now wrap your head around that before you go crying to the world.


Government entrapment? Uhh, wut? Barr said the reason they dropped it was because Flynns lying was immaterial to the larger case at hand.... NOT that he was entrapped.

As part of his plea deal, Flynn even said that he wasn't entrapped.
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Proving that even a blind, mentally ill, squirrel occasionally gathers a nut, our resident California mental patient has demonstrated that Lt. General Flynn was charged with ONE process crime. NOT "crimes", plural, as insisted on by his TDS infected, fellow traveler.

Moreover, the "nut" gathered by California mental patient nut ALSO demonstrates that Lt. General Flynn pled guilty to that ONE process crime ONE TIME and not "multiple times" as also alleged by the TDS peanut gallery.

When more facts were eventually brought forward that manifestly made it clear that the ONE process crime for which Lt. General Flynn was charged was the result of the interview by the FBI which was “untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn…. Conducted without any legitimate investigative basis”. Additionally, Flynn’s statements were "not material, even if untrue”.

In short, NO ACTUAL CRIME WAS EVER COMMITTED, and it was yet ANOTHER FRAUD by The California mental patient's "Legendary Lawman", Mueller and his circus of partisan hack monkeys.





Keep moving that goal post. Flynn lied multiple times and also admitted he (unlawfully) didn't register as a foreign agent as he took hundreds of thousands of dollar lobbying for Turkish interest. Even so, he wasn't charged with that.

Let's also not forget Flynn was fired by this administration for lying to Pence.

But if dear leader supports Flynn, well by-golly, his slurpers will too.

The fact that you have to constantly hurl insults only shows how weak your position is.
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Keep moving that goal post. Flynn lied multiple times and also admitted he (unlawfully) didn't register as a foreign agent as he took hundreds of thousands of dollar lobbying for Turkish interest. Even so, he wasn't charged with that.

Let's also not forget Flynn was fired by this administration for lying to Pence.

But if dear leader supports Flynn, well by-golly, his slurpers will too.

The fact that you have to constantly hurl insults only shows how weak your position is.



So then YOU LIED

 
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Flynn plead guilty multiple times of his crimes.




By your own admission it's now evident that you knew that Lt. General Flynn was only charged with ONE "crime" and he only pled guilty ONE TIME.

You claim to know what he was, and wasn't, charged with so it's obvious that YOU LIED

Your "position" is so damn weak that you have to LIE.

I see that you don't want to discuss General James E. Cartwright

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Government entrapment? Uhh, wut? Barr said the reason they dropped it was because Flynns lying was immaterial to the larger case at hand.... NOT that he was entrapped.



That is another LIE

Attorney General Barr and the federal prosecutor assigned to the Flynn case both said:

"the Government has concluded that the interview of Mr. Flynn was untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn—a no longer justifiably predicated investigation that the FBI had, in the Bureau’s own words, prepared to close because it had yielded an “absence of any derogatory information.” Ex. 1 at 4, FBI FD-1057 “Closing Communication” Jan. 4, 2017 (emphases added). The Government is not persuaded that the January 24, 2017 interview was conducted with a legitimate investigative basis and therefore does not believe Mr. Flynn’s statements were material even if untrue."


There was NO "larger case at hand."

Nobody can be legitimately charged with lying to the FBI about a case that doesn't exist.

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Government entrapment? Uhh, wut? Barr said the reason they dropped it was because Flynns lying was immaterial to the larger case at hand.... NOT that he was entrapped.

As part of his plea deal, Flynn even said that he wasn't entrapped.


"the Government has concluded that the interview of Mr. Flynn was untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn—a no longer justifiably predicated investigation that the FBI had, in the Bureau’s own words, prepared to close because it had yielded an “absence of any derogatory information.” Ex. 1 at 4, FBI FD-1057 “Closing Communication” Jan. 4, 2017 (emphases added). The Government is not persuaded that the January 24, 2017 interview was conducted with a legitimate investigative basis and therefore does not believe Mr. Flynn’s statements were material even if untrue."

In case you haven't been paying attention the above statement translates to "government entrapment". It's just written in legalese.
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"the Government has concluded that the interview of Mr. Flynn was untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn—a no longer justifiably predicated investigation that the FBI had, in the Bureau’s own words, prepared to close because it had yielded an “absence of any derogatory information.” Ex. 1 at 4, FBI FD-1057 “Closing Communication” Jan. 4, 2017 (emphases added). The Government is not persuaded that the January 24, 2017 interview was conducted with a legitimate investigative basis and therefore does not believe Mr. Flynn’s statements were material even if untrue."

In case you haven't been paying attention the above statement translates to "government entrapment". It's just written in legalese.


No, it doesn't. It explicitly states his statements were not material, NOT that he was entrapped.

Do you even know what entrapment is?


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No, it doesn't. It explicitly states his statements were not material, NOT that he was entrapped.

Do you even know what entrapment is?



And does it say why his statements were not material?

Read the whole statement not just a part of one sentence.

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No, it doesn't. It explicitly states his statements were not material, NOT that he was entrapped.

Do you even know what entrapment is?



We all know that you're cemented to only those last 8 words, but now tell us all what the rest of it "explicitly states"

You are still avoiding the General James E. Cartwright matter too.

Doesn't fit with your bullshit narrative does it?

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We all know that you're cemented to only those last 8 words, but now tell us all what the rest of it "explicitly states"

You are still avoiding the General James E. Cartwright matter too.

Doesn't fit with your bullshit narrative does it?



Coming from the guy in a previous thread who touted "a well documented book" that wasn't even a book, thats rich.

Make a thread on Cartwright if you want to discuss it so badly. Until then, just more flailing/hand waving from you.

Go to a counselor, smoke some weed. Do something, but you need to chill out.

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Coming from the guy in a previous thread who touted "a well documented book" that wasn't even a book, thats rich.

Make a thread on Cartwright if you want to discuss it so badly. Until then, just more flailing/hand waving from you.

Go to a counselor, smoke some weed. Do something, but you need to chill out.



So then you're not going to address General James E. Cartwright even though you indirectly brought him up.

YOU were the one that was bellowing and hooting:

 
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Originally posted by RandomTask:


This was a complete failure of Justice.

Fynn plead guilty multiple times of his crimes .

If Obama was doing this stuff at the DOJ, randeye would have stroked out.



Every single bit of your wild, Leftist hysteria was A LIE.

The "flailing/hand waving" was ALL YOURS you dimwitted, larval, Marxist.

Your bullshit narrative was shattered to pieces the moment it was put to the slightest inspection and now you want to pretend it never happened.

Ignoring all of the text explaining in their motion why the DOJ dropped the case against General Flynn, you remain pigheadedly glued to just 8 words at the end of a sentence that makes absolutely no sense unless it is taken in context with it's full predicate.

You made it glaringly obvious that you simply don't have the requisite intellect to understand what you're gibbering about.

[This message has been edited by randye (edited 06-30-2020).]

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