Interested enough to have an eye out for a report that's said to be coming out sometime soon. Like 2Q 2018. The DOJ Inspector General's report on how the Obama-era DOJ and FBI handled their investigation(s) of Hillary Clinton's private email server and what I guess would be any other Clinton-related topics.
You may not have seen it, but I already posted about this.
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Interested enough to have an eye out for a report that's said to be coming out sometime soon. Like 2Q 2018. The DOJ Inspector General's report on how the Obama-era DOJ and FBI handled their investigation(s) of Hillary Clinton's private email server and what I guess would be any other Clinton related topics.
You may not have seen it, but I already posted about this.
I have not seen your post on it, but I am interested in seeing the IG report when it does come out.
Originally posted by rinselberg: What I want most of all isclosure from the Mueller investigation. I want the investigation to reach a state of completion and issue some kind of report. If it clears President Trump of any personal wrongdoing, or ends without any additional criminal indictments that reach into the Trump White House--thinking particularly about Jared Kushner here--then So Be It.
I'm far more likely to accept the validity of such a report, than to reject it.
Since Mueller has such an open-ended charging document, I think he ought to go after the only proven thing that includes Russian involvement. That is that the Hillary Clinton Campaign and the Democratic Party paid some Russians who might or might not be connected to Putin for dirt on Trump and his people. Then the politicized FBI, the DOJ and other alphabet agencies jumped into the fray and improperly surveiled American Citizens by using a fake dossier to open a FISA warrant and then used that warrant to spy on all kinds of people who themselves were all US Citizens. Then they unmasked them and leaked it to the press. All illegal. All unconstitutional. And as such should be brought to justice and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Since Mueller has such an open-ended charging document, I think he ought to go after the only proven thing that includes Russian involvement. That is that the Hillary Clinton Campaign and the Democratic Party paid some Russians who might or might not be connected to Putin for dirt on Trump and his people. Then the politicized FBI, the DOJ and other alphabet agencies jumped into the fray and improperly surveiled American Citizens by using a fake dossier to open a FISA warrant and then used that warrant to spy on all kinds of people who themselves were all US Citizens. Then they unmasked them and leaked it to the press. All illegal. All unconstitutional. And as such should be brought to justice and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Since Mueller has such an open-ended charging document, I think he ought to go after the only proven thing that includes Russian involvement. That is that the Hillary Clinton Campaign and the Democratic Party paid some Russians who might or might not be connected to Putin for dirt on Trump and his people. Then the politicized FBI, the DOJ and other alphabet agencies jumped into the fray and improperly surveiled American Citizens by using a fake dossier to open a FISA warrant and then used that warrant to spy on all kinds of people who themselves were all US Citizens. Then they unmasked them and leaked it to the press. All illegal. All unconstitutional. And as such should be brought to justice and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Let's start with fact #1
The DNC and the Clinton campaign CONSPIRED with Fusion GPS and hired a FOREIGN AGENT, (Christopher Steele), while trying to hide it by funneling the money through their law firm, Perkins Coie to avoid that use of political donations being known to the Federal Election Commission.
The main elements of conspiracy are a specific intent, an agreement with another person to engage a crime to be performed, and the commission of an overt act by one of the conspirators in furtherance of the conspiracy.
That covers CONSPIRACY to employ an unregistered FOREIGN AGENT in a domestic political campaign. A violation of 22 U.S. Code § 611
Violation of U.S. Election Law 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(c). the intentional misuse of political campaign contributions is also obvious.
Certain FBI official's violations of the Hatch Act, as defined in 5 U.S.C. § 7323 and § 7324 via their participation in the aforementioned CONSPIRACY
PERJURY and FRAUD on a Federal, (FISA), Court by certain officials of the FBI via their use and conduct with materials and facts arising from the aforementioned CONSPIRACY.
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The DNC and the Clinton campaign CONSPIRED with Fusion GPS and hired a FOREIGN AGENT, (Christopher Steele), while trying to hide it by funneling the money through their law firm, Perkins Coie to avoid that use of political donations being known to the Federal Election Commission.
The main elements of conspiracy are a specific intent, an agreement with another person to engage a crime to be performed, and the commission of an overt act by one of the conspirators in furtherance of the conspiracy.
That covers CONSPIRACY to employ an unregistered FOREIGN AGENT in a domestic political campaign. A violation of 22 U.S. Code § 611
Violation of U.S. Election Law 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(c). the intentional misuse of political campaign contributions is also obvious.
Certain FBI official's violations of the Hatch Act, as defined in 5 U.S.C. § 7323 and § 7324 via their participation in the aforementioned CONSPIRACY
PERJURY and FRAUD on a Federal Court by certain officials of the FBI via their use and conduct with materials and facts arising from the aforementioned CONSPIRACY.
I vehemently object to all of that behavior and want to see indictments and arrests.
Agreed,.. but looking for counter arguments. Though I am realistic and understand that any argument against indictments in this case are purely illogical, political and ignorant at their core. BUT I want to see an attempt,.. it is worth a laugh.
Originally posted by randye: Let's start with fact #1
The DNC and the Clinton campaign CONSPIRED with Fusion GPS and hired a FOREIGN AGENT, (Christopher Steele), while trying to hide it by funneling the money through their law firm, Perkins Coie to avoid that use of political donations being known to the Federal Election Commission.
The main elements of conspiracy are a specific intent, an agreement with another person to engage a crime to be performed, and the commission of an overt act by one of the conspirators in furtherance of the conspiracy.
That covers CONSPIRACY to employ an unregistered FOREIGN AGENT in a domestic political campaign. A violation of 22 U.S. Code § 611
Violation of U.S. Election Law 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(c). the intentional misuse of political campaign contributions is also obvious.
Certain FBI official's violations of the Hatch Act, as defined in 5 U.S.C. § 7323 and § 7324 via their participation in the aforementioned CONSPIRACY
PERJURY and FRAUD on a Federal, (FISA), Court by certain officials of the FBI via their use and conduct with materials and facts arising from the aforementioned CONSPIRACY.
This is an excellent workup. I suggest forwarding this to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Rod may tell us that Bob Mueller is already "muelling" this over--that it's already in the pipeline, so to speak. That it's already "baked" into Special Counsel Mueller's BIG investigation.
I'd do it myself, but I don't have Rod's internal email address at DOJ.
I don't think this should go to any of DOJ's public-facing email accounts. It's way too sensitive.
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It's Infrastructure Week (again), and if Steve Bannon just sat down over a period of days for 20 hours-worth of interviews with the Mueller investigation, my guess is that Bannon was paving a road of incriminating evidence that leads directly to Jared Kushner's front door.
That is almost a verbatim quote from former Obama administration staffer Ron Klain's appearance on Thursday's episode of The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, on MSNBC.
