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Did you not read my post at all? There is no call for reparations, only criminal and educational justice reform. The goal(imo) is that black americans can have the same shot as white americans, and they currently don't.


That is a load of crap and you know it.. Still pushing this b/s after a black held the highest office in the land..
blacks want to be a cop/fireman/dpw worker/mailman/etc they get to score LOWER than a white, Same in the private business , as the business can't just hire the best of the best , they have to meet a quota, of females, latino's, blacks.. it USED to be you got a job because you were the best that applied, not anymore. So tell us again how the poor blacks don't have the as good a shot, cause your right they don't have the same shot, THEY HAVE A BETTER SHOT!!!!!!!!!! Yet you still think it is not enough.. Maybe if they fired teachers with no education (most can't pass the test the students have to, but teach!!!) in the innercity schools they have a better education.. And if your post here are any reflection of your knowledge you sir should be fired..


Black people: No amount of protesting is going to fix problems that you bring upon yourselves. People in this country aren't racist against you, people in this country simply dislike a group of people that is incredibly disproportionate when it comes to murder, violent crime, children born out of wedlock, and most importantly, men who impregnate women then shirk their responsibilities as a father. From 1960 until present day, the number of children born in black communities out of wedlock (no father in the picture) has doubled in the black community to more than 70%. As far as family and morality, you were better off statistically BEFORE civil rights, and that's a sad fact. You go on and on about how police treat you differently, but ignore how crime infested your communities are. But please, feel free to call us all racists, and to start an organization called Black Lives Matter, an organization that doesn't give a F about black lives being snuffed out when it's other blacks doing it. Society has rules to live by, you fail to live by those rules, then you want to blame everyone else for your own problems. You won the lottery being born in this wonderful country, but you don't even realize it. Where else in the world are you going to get treated better? No common sense hypocrites who want to blame everyone else for their problems instead of fixing the situation themselves.

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I'm with dratts on this. The war on drugs is a complete failure. We have spent countless billions making criminals out of ordinary people. Our appetite for illegal drugs has given rise to the Mexican Cartels and Columbian Cartels and has contributed to thousands of deaths in Mexico and South America.

Why do we continue to try the same ideas over and over and over with the same miserable results? It's the very definition of insane.


So you are claiming that countries with crap economies didn't cause the people to choose where the money is?? Isn't that the line we get from those that claim the reason for gangs and dealers in innercities? lack of jobs? So what one is it.. The war on drugs is a good idea with the wrong plan, it's whole thing got over run by those that saw it as a way to make a killing in the court systems , laywers, fines, fees,probation dept. That was allowed to become the goal.. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.. It stopped being a war on drugs a long time ago and became a big business , THAT IS WERE IT FAILED!!!
No one wants to admit that nor do they want to fix it, as to many now make a good living off of it, from lawyers to probation dept to courts to city/towns to the privately owned prisons.. That is the issue and no one will step on those toes.. And those that see the problem with the war on drugs, push for it to be killed off instead of being made in to the goal it started out as, and move away from the business money making monster it has become.. If the general public and useful idiots knew the amount of big business it is and whom profit from it all, they push for it to be changed ,So the goal is back on the true need , pushing for it to be killed off is a fools game.. shining a light on the big business of it, isn't.. That will force change for the better..

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I'm with dratts on this. The war on drugs is a complete failure.

Again, this is only an opinion. The war on poverty is also a complete failure according to the same standard you used.
BTW, there is literally no way to prove that the war on drugs is a failure because we have no idea how bad it would be had we never fought it.
 
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We have spent countless billions making criminals out of ordinary people.

The same can be said about gun laws,......about ANY laws. If we had no laws at all we would have no criminals.
The laws are in place for a reason. I I believe drug laws are better than no laws.

 
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Our appetite for illegal drugs has given rise to the Mexican Cartels and Columbian Cartels and has contributed to thousands of deaths in Mexico and South America.

And legalization would only expand their market because they can make it and supply it cheaper than producing it legally in America.

 
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Why do we continue to try the same ideas over and over and over with the same miserable results? It's the very definition of insane.


Gun laws come to mind.

Again, we are not punishing the criminals anyway. Have you any idea how well inmates are treated? They have a more secure life behind the wall. And it is only getting better for them as liberals implement more and more hug a thug programs.

This will be my last comment on the drug war in this thread. We have had this discussion many times before and this is an off the topic discussion in this thread.
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I'm with dratts on this. The war on drugs is a complete failure. We have spent countless billions making criminals out of ordinary people. Our appetite for illegal drugs has given rise to the Mexican Cartels and Columbian Cartels and has contributed to thousands of deaths in Mexico and South America.

Why do we continue to try the same ideas over and over and over with the same miserable results? It's the very definition of insane.


Only a fool expects to get different results repeating the same steps.
Personally, I don't care what anyone does in their private lives as long as it doesn't effect or hurt another person. The problem is, that pesky domino effect, none of us or our actions only effect us, the individual. Having said that, I really don't care if a drug addict ODs on his/her drug of choice. I believe it's all about being responsible for our own decisions/actions. Whether it's drugs, alcohol or speeding, I don't care unless you endanger another person.
Want to be stupid, go ahead, just don't hurt anyone else in the process. It's your life, waste it or make something of it. Your choice.

Reference racism: Interesting question. Everyone is pro-whatever they are. It's human nature, if you deny that, you're lying to yourself. That doesn't mean I (we) have to be anti-whatever you are.

Judging people by the decisions they make and the actions they take makes it easier for me. Whether that's racist or not is up to the reader's perspective.
There are good folks all over this rock, there are also azzwipes of all races that don't pull their own weight, steal, commit all kinds of crimes against others and only think of themselves.

Everyone deserves a fair opportunity to excel or fail, everyone is also responsible for the decisions they make and the actions they take.
I can only effect my immediate world in my daily life, I treat people like I want to be treated.

I happen to have married a white liberal woman (what can I say, opposites attract maybe).
I've dated and loved women of other races. I'm a conservative white male, we are a decreasing population from my perspective.
Have a great day and look in the mirror, the reflection you get may be different that what other's perceive. Consider that.

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after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.

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Gun laws come to mind.

Again, we are not punishing the criminals anyway. Have you any idea how well inmates are treated? They have a more secure life behind the wall. And it is only getting better for them as liberals implement more and more hug a thug programs.

This will be my last comment on the drug war in this thread. We have had this discussion many times before and this is an off the topic discussion in this thread.


I dont think the drug problem CAN be fixed. I've got one living next door. I can tell as soon as she hits the meth because I hear the cursing and screaming thru the wall. You think I can swaer ? That girl can make a sailor blush with the language. The pure hate that comes out of her mouth is unbelievable.

She is a great girl when she is straight, but get her on that stuff and WOW talk about a personality change. I've got a weakness for my beer and smokes (having one right now) but I know when to say enough.

I was over there yesterday and gave her a big hug. Its about all I can do, and I cant get the cute redhead off the stuff unless she wants to.
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Did you not read my post at all? There is no call for reparations, only criminal and educational justice reform. The goal(imo) is that black americans can have the same shot as white americans, and they currently don't.


Educational justice reform?
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It's weird to me to say that we should prosecute drug crimes less in order to help out a certain race.
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Originally posted by Hudini:

I'm with dratts on this. The war on drugs is a complete failure. We have spent countless billions making criminals out of ordinary people. Our appetite for illegal drugs has given rise to the Mexican Cartels and Columbian Cartels and has contributed to thousands of deaths in Mexico and South America.

Why do we continue to try the same ideas over and over and over with the same miserable results? It's the very definition of insane.


Because the regulations on alcohol work so well right? Alcoholism doesn't destroy families. It doesn't cause deaths on our roads. We don't have problems with under aged use. Indeed, continuing to try the same ideas over and over and over with the same miserable results, is the very definition of insane
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Because the regulations on alcohol work so well right? Alcoholism doesn't destroy families. It doesn't cause deaths on our roads. We don't have problems with under aged use. Indeed, continuing to try the same ideas over and over and over with the same miserable results, is the very definition of insane


The problem is people have been brain washed for so long. Now every "Drug" is bad. But just like you pointed out Alcohol is just as bad if not worse.
Addiction is at an all time high, perhaps putting the money spent else where into a solution that we can make work instead of throwing money away on something that is less harmful then the 6 pack I can get at the store.
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The problem is people have been brain washed for so long. Now every "Drug" is bad. But just like you pointed out Alcohol is just as bad if not worse.
Addiction is at an all time high, perhaps putting the money spent else where into a solution that we can make work instead of throwing money away on something that is less harmful then the 6 pack I can get at the store.


I'm not one for smoking marijuana but I do think it may be less harmful than alcohol. I also think industrial hemp production would be a profitable venture while helping "save" the planet. I am under no illusion though that the medicinal end of it would be any more welly regulated than alcohol is. Heroin, crack, cocaine, LSD, PCP and any other number of illicit substances on the other hand, I think would be far more harmful legal than illegal.
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Addiction is at an all time high, perhaps putting the money spent else where into a solution that we can make work instead of throwing money away on something that is less harmful then the 6 pack I can get at the store.



How about we just stop spending money trying solve addict's issues and let them solve their own addiction problems?
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I'm not one for smoking marijuana but I do think it may be less harmful than alcohol. I also think industrial hemp production would be a profitable venture while helping "save" the planet. I am under no illusion though that the medicinal end of it would be any more welly regulated than alcohol is. Heroin, crack, cocaine, LSD, PCP and any other number of illicit substances on the other hand, I think would be far more harmful legal than illegal.


I'm apposed to anything that is addicting.
marijuana is not physically addicting that's proven. It takes a full year to harvest a crop of trees to make paper and hemp you could have 4 times that crop in one season.
You can not get high off of Hemp but yet its still not legal to grow. Perhaps because it would cripple the current businesses?
I don't know, I would like to see marijuana and hemp made legal. Regulate it and make it safe, its going to generate money.
As for the other drugs you posted, no I believe they are harmful and need to stay illegal. But make marijuana legal and stop putting people in jail for it.
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The majority of this country. Our employers, our police, and our courts. People refuse to recognize the bias that they have and claim it doesn't exist. Those who support the drug war, and those who ignore police brutality and profiling. You might not be oppressing them, but the white dominated systems in this country certainly are.

Is it all white people? No.
Is it only white people? No.
But who has the most power to stop it? The white voter, as they still hold the political power in this country.

I(as a liberal this is hard to say) fully agree with the Koch brothers on this one. Our criminal justice system keeps people down, and the black community is the largest section of those people.

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I think that our system is rigged against them. They are more likely to be pulled over and searched, more likely to be abused by the police, less like to get a job because of their ethnicity, more likely to be wrongly convicted, and more likely to grow up with less access to financial resources or good schools as their white counterparts. [i]These are the reasons there are more black Americans that make "bad choices", and this is the systematic oppression in our country. [/i]


This is the only post anyone in this thread needs. If they can't see it through this, they won't see it.

PFF, read these links. Find out how the system works against some more than others. The system needs to be changed. We need equality.

 
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It's weird to me to say that we should prosecute drug crimes less in order to help out a certain race.


We should get rid of the drug war because: It doesn't work, it increases crime, and the government should not care what I do with my body. We say we're for small government, right?

An added bonus is that the laws have disproportionately affected Blacks more than anyone else. The links in Threedog's post show this. By getting rid of them, we are promoting more equality. Freedom is the goal of this country--I prefer to continue fighting for it.
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It's weird to me to say that we should prosecute drug crimes less in order to help out a certain race.


People that think like this, or just think those in jail for drug crimes are only there for the dealing the drugs or being caught with it, forget they are also commiting money laundery, tax evation, most times illegal guns, and violence against others, and,or robbery to feed the habit.. THEY ARE NOT LOCKED UP JUST BECAUSE OF THE DRUG ALLONE.. to many forget the rest of the crap that go along with it.. They act like none of that is part of the reason for them getting locked up.. to many see it as them only doing or dealing a drug.. blind leading the phucking blind.. ghetto's are not unsafe dumps because of people dealing and selling drugs, it is because of all the crap that goes along with it.. the drug dealing/use is the cause of the rest of it, but the act of the sale isn't.. people forget and don't put the whole thing together, and will say why are our streets unsafe, why why why.. HELLO........................................
Making it(no matter what drug) legal isn't gonna do crap.. as the underground with no overhead no regs and no taxes to collect will still be cheaper.. Why people shop at walmart, it isn't because of it being chic!!.. because it is cheaper...
Here they passed in 2016 to legalize weed, and forget the delays they are doing, the bill /law voted on was to have a 12% tax over and above the 6.25% sales tax, now those in power changed it, it will be 28%+ the state sales tax of 6.25% , the underground dealers will still sell just as much illegal weed as ever, as they will be cheaper.. much cheaper.. So those that claim legalizing drugs will fix the crime/gang issues are full of **** .. or never learned how businesses work, and how sales are driven..
man I can go down to the 7-11 and get a dime bag( remember I have no idea what this **** cost so the dollar amounts are most likely way off but you'll get the point) for 45.00 but yo, I can get a dime off brother smurf for 30.00 . where you think they are going to go buy it from
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We should get rid of the drug war because: It doesn't work, it increases crime, and the government should not care what I do with my body. We say we're for small government, right?

An added bonus is that the laws have disproportionately affected Blacks more than anyone else. The links in Threedog's post show this. By getting rid of them, we are promoting more equality. Freedom is the goal of this country--I prefer to continue fighting for it.


total and utter b/s.. see post above.. fact is the jail time per drug is by danger.. meth gets the same as crack, so your coke vs crack argument will fail, and was a b/s argument in the first place.. and legalizing or just stopping fighting the drugs use, won't make the gangs go way or crime go away it won't even slow,again see post above..

Frankly most on the inside for drug charges got off easy.. they should get hit with money laundry, tax evasion, etc.. even the users caught with enough that they could be dealing..

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Personal responsibility. If me saying this upsets you, then you are the problem.

Again, what do I owe? By just being born white, I suffer from affirmative action. Where is my white college fund? White history month? Looting? All things color holds from me. There is more, but please tell me what I owe, and who do I pay? Please help me? Anyone? Let me become whole for the sins of my skin.
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Personal responsibility. If me saying this upsets you, then you are the problem.

Again, what do I owe? By just being born white, I suffer from affirmative action. Where is my white college fund? White history month? Looting? All things color holds from me. There is more, but please tell me what I owe, and who do I pay? Please help me? Anyone? Let me become whole for the sins of my skin.


p.s. you might be old enough for this..

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We should get rid of the drug war because: It doesn't work, it increases crime, and the government should not care what I do with my body. We say we're for small government, right?

An added bonus is that the laws have disproportionately affected Blacks more than anyone else. The links in Threedog's post show this. By getting rid of them, we are promoting more equality. Freedom is the goal of this country--I prefer to continue fighting for it.



Please don't confuse equality of OPPORTUNITY with equality of OUTCOME. The left continually tries to enforce the latter and it does not work now and it has never worked in the past. We all have the opportunity to succeed. Some choose a different path.
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I like how all of a sudden people stop responding to me once I provide multiple sources and they then cherry pick a different part of the subject. Truly is the digital version of putting your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalalalala"



This quote comming from this Ass is GOLDEN! GOLDEN I tell you!!!
Irony at it finest!
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Personal responsibility. If me saying this upsets you, then you are the problem.



Seems as if freedom is legalization and changing laws for the expressed purpose of benefiting black people, THEN forcing everybody else to pay for the results of freedom of choice and lack of personal responsibility. Do I understand this correctly?

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This quote comming from this Ass is GOLDEN! GOLDEN I tell you!!!
Irony at it finest!


This is an example of what I've talked about in previous posts. Difference of opinion is fine and I 100% support anyone voicing their opinion. Just one thing. "ass". Totally unneeded!
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Personal responsibility. If me saying this upsets you, then you are the problem.

Again, what do I owe? By just being born white, I suffer from affirmative action. Where is my white college fund? White history month? Looting? All things color holds from me. There is more, but please tell me what I owe, and who do I pay? Please help me? Anyone? Let me become whole for the sins of my skin.


Tony, you don't owe anything. We should all work to always be more aware of our privileges and biases, and how they shape our lives. You are not at fault for the color of your skin, for the privileges you get for that, or for anyone's reaction to that.

Privilege exists. A woman has privilege over a man when it comes to domestic violence support. The son of a Senator has privilege for increased access to political capital. A man has privilege over a woman for muscle building. A woman has privilege over a man for the child support system. A Black man has privilege over a White man for affirmative action. A White woman has privilege over a woman with Middle Eastern skin tone for positive role models in the media.

These things exist. And it's okay. I want to tear down most of these inequalities, such as the sexist child support system and increased access to support for male victims of domestic violence. I want affirmative action to go away! The biases we form due to how our experiences frame the patterns we see are not inherently evil or racist--we all have biases. But to overcome those biases, it's important to be aware of how it all works together. It's important to step back and see society as a larger whole, then do deep dives to see trends on a macro level. Then rope that back to your experiences and figure out how to mesh them, or possibly absolve them.

By being aware of our biases and privileges, we can start to see there are ways to increase equality for everyone. No, I'm not talking about affirmative action here. Not hurting most for the sake of some. I'm talking about targeted measures that are hurting our society today; the same ones I mentioned earlier. Again, you aren't at fault. You don't owe anything, but maybe a vote in the right direction.

 
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Please don't confuse equality of OPPORTUNITY with equality of OUTCOME. The left continually tries to enforce the latter and it does not work now and it has never worked in the past. We all have the opportunity to succeed. Some choose a different path.


I promise you, I am not!


 
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Seems as if freedom is legalization and changing laws for the expressed purpose of benefiting black people, THEN forcing everybody else to pay for the results of freedom of choice and lack of personal responsibility. Do I understand this correctly?



Drug laws are immoral anyway. You like them, I know, but you shouldn't be able to tell me what I can and can't do in the privacy of my home. Furthermore, changing laws for the express purpose of benefiting a group of people isn't inherently wrong. Abolishing slavery benefited Black people. Civil rights benefited Black people.

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This is an example of what I've talked about in previous posts. Difference of opinion is fine and I 100% support anyone voicing their opinion. Just one thing. "ass". Totally unneeded!


And exactly who the Hell are you to dictate what a person is allowed to say in how they voice their opinion?
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How about we just stop spending money trying solve addict's issues and let them solve their own addiction problems?


its not that easy, sir.

cancer is hell-on-earth, dementia is second place, and addictions are a close 3rd.

ive seen cancer with dad.. dementia with grandma. and drug addictions with girls ive dated.

listened to the addicts cry, and cry and cry how they dont want to but cant help themselves.

we have one--gretchin--i let her into my place, let her use the shower to clean up--and she just gets angry. once they put the needle in the arm, or powder up the nose, there is not one damn thing you can do to help


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And exactly who the Hell are you to dictate what a person is allowed to say in how they voice their opinion?


Perfect! You expressed your opinion without resorting to call me an ass. Thank you.
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Perfect! You expressed your opinion without resorting to call me an ass. Thank you.


You're welcome Killary kunt.
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its not that easy, sir.

cancer is hell-on-earth, dementia is second place, and addictions are a close 3rd.

ive seen cancer with dad.. dementia with grandma. and drug addictions with girls ive dated.

listened to the addicts cry, and cry and cry how they dont want to but cant help themselves.

we have one--gretchin--i let her into my place, let her use the shower to clean up--and she just gets angry. once they put the needle in the arm, or powder up the nose, there is not one damn thing you can do to help



Sorry about your relative's health issues. We all face challenge's similar to that at one point or another. Best wishes for those relatives of yours.
Reference the gals you date and their drug issues, that just shows your decision making is flawed. I suggest you back up the bus and re-think who and what you get yourself into.

Being a hard ass isn't always easy but, it does have some benefits. I have no similar issues, people know where I stand on stupid things.

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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but …
after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.

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I like how all of a sudden people stop responding to me once I provide multiple sources and they then cherry pick a different part of the subject. Truly is the digital version of putting your fingers in your ears and going "lalalalalalalala"



Hmm............ Just saw this........ Wouldn't have seen it at all except I was reading Lambo's response to it. That got me to thinking, why did I miss it?
Most likely other's missed it for the same reason. I skip over most of your posts. Guilty as charged.

Same old "poor me/us" stuff. I have many upstanding friends and acquaintances of most races, I also know a lot of losers. The losers are always getting into trouble. Those losers are from every race. I know a guy that just got busted for dope in his car, claims it was a girl's he was giving a ride to. Same guy has been busted three or four times for similar offenses. Oh, BTW, he's white. He says the cops are always on his ass. Hmmm, I wonder why.

We all have choices to make and opportunities to screw the pooch. You can make your own decisions and take responsibility for them.

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If they are at the point of an o/d stop bringing them back.. The emt's know what ones that they have brought back 2-3-4-5 or more times.. after your first, sorry,, body bag..
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Same old "poor me/us" stuff. I have many upstanding friends and acquaintances of most races, I also know a lot of losers. The losers are always getting into trouble. Those losers are from every race. I know a guy that just got busted for dope in his car, claims it was a girl's he was giving a ride to. Same guy has been busted three or four times for similar offenses. Oh, BTW, he's white. He says the cops are always on his ass. Hmmm, I wonder why.


Interestingly enough, I don't do drugs and never have ( except trying pot once and hating it ). My Ex was a meth addict and her brothers were as well. We were over at her parents house when one of her brothers accused another brother of stealing his meth ( which it turned out the other brother had done ). Cops were called after the brother making the accusation got his fathers 45 and threatened to kill the other. As the cops were on the way, the brother with the gun came outside where I was at and started pointing the gun at his head trying to get up the nerve to pull the trigger because he didn't want to go back to jail again. Me being me, I put myself in harms way trying my best to talk him down and get the gun from him. I finally got the gun from him and went and locked it in my truck about a minute before the cops showed up. I gave the cops my keys when they showed up and told them I got the gun away from him and it's locked in my truck over there. They arrested the brother and retrieved the gun from my truck. My truck was a lowered king-cab mini-truck with a really nice sound system including a couple of 10" subs. They took my statement and I thought that was the end of it. I did something good right? I kept him from shooting himself or from threatening the life of an officer in a suicide by cop attempt.

Nope, how wrong I was. Over the next month I got pulled over 15 times. Cops asking if they could search my vehicle to which I always said "sure, knock yourself out." Bogus claims such as "You didn't come to a full and complete stop at that stop sign." Yeah right... I saw you sitting in your car over there and made sure I came to a full complete stop. That was the one that pushed me over the edge. I told the cop to stop effing pulling me over when I hadn't done anything. I continued saying I was sick of it, 15 times in 1 month and not a single ticket. I was pissed!

I didn't get pulled over again after that. But I can easily guess what prompted the stops. I was at the house of well known drug users who had been in jail multiple times for drug related charges. I assume it was "guilt by association."
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I didn't get pulled over again after that. But I can easily guess what prompted the stops. I was at the house of well known drug users who had been in jail multiple times for drug related charges. I assume it was "guilt by association."


If I was a betting man, I'd say you're right.

I grew up with two best friends, we joined the Marines together and then were assigned to different units and places. One of them came back from his overseas assignment a user and unknown to me, a dealer. We maintained our friendship up to the point that I became a commissioned officer in the Army. At that point, I was an officer and involved in things requiring a TSBI clearance. Our friendship was questioned. I was friends with a known drug dealing and using individual.

Now, my friend's activities was putting my career in jeopardy. Though, we then and now lived in different states, I let my friend know the situation and advised him that I would no longer be visiting him when returning to our old stomping grounds. He understood why. We remain (to this day) as friends but, we no longer associate. His life has taken many turns and while I honestly regret the wasted talent and potential of his life, it's his life to do as he wishes.

Personal responsibility, it's his choice. Yes, he's made some very bad decisions and to be frank, is lucky to still be alive. It is, what it is.
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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but …
after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.

I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.

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Here's a black woman telling us what's wrong with black society in America:



But let me guess, her opinion doesn't count because she isn't a "real" black person. She immigrated from Africa.
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Here's a black woman telling us what's wrong with black society in America:



But let me guess, her opinion doesn't count because she isn't a "real" black person. She immigrated from Africa.

Seems to me, that IF there is a "reason" for the blacks in America being "oppressed" and IF there is oppression at all, then they should look at them selfs as a community and ask if they are doing anything to perpetuate the problem are belief that there is even a problem at all? Could it be the American black culture that people just do not like?

Again, I do not believe that America is so racist that America is oppressing the black community. I do not believe that America has devised a system that singles out black people and targets them for discrimination. I do not believe American Laws specifically target black people. But that there are other factors that affect ALL people in America, and the vast majority of those factors are personal choices. Could the black community be suffering under their own choices? Could the black community be causing their own oppression? Could the black community be chaining themselves?
Personal choice come with consequences, and NOBODY should be forced to accept the personal choices of others if those people do dot willingly accept those choices.
There are millions of different cultures in America, and not all of them are openly accepted. Keep in mind that culture is not always related to race or color, it is a system of choices.

"Culture is the characteristics and knowledge of a particular group of people, encompassing language, religion, cuisine, social habits, music and arts."

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How about we just stop spending money trying solve addict's issues and let them solve their own addiction problems?


It usually happens in the end, either before or after we take over responsibility for their kids and other dependents.
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We should get rid of the drug war because: It doesn't work, it increases crime, and the government should not care what I do with my body. We say we're for small government, right?

An added bonus is that the laws have disproportionately affected Blacks more than anyone else. The links in Threedog's post show this. By getting rid of them, we are promoting more equality. Freedom is the goal of this country--I prefer to continue fighting for it.


These are clueless statements man. You have been sold a lie.
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Here's a black woman telling us what's wrong with black society in America:



But let me guess, her opinion doesn't count because she isn't a "real" black person. She immigrated from Africa.


Good video, it also fits well with this thread's topic

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/121119.html

I fail to see why people support and argue these agendas today that actually are counter productive and damaging and limit the freedom of the American individual to succeed by dragging them down in what is basically bureaucracy trying to end with equality of outcome.
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These are clueless statements man. You have been sold a lie.


I don't think he is around. He may have taken another PFF vacation?
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