Well here goes, I am going to officially announce that I am going to produce new stainless and mild steel sunroof tracks or channels or whatever you want to call them. I hope to have the first run complete on Saturday. Since it appears that I will have to buy a full sheet of stainless to start I would like to get some verbal orders going. (notice I said verbal) I think I can get around 30 sets out of a 48" x 120" sheet of stainless. Price will be $75.00 plus shipping. Here is the original thread that started it all:
These will be made out of 20 ga (.036") 304 stainless steel with welded studs instead of the spot welded t-nuts (or the rivet nuts if I have problems studding them), so the channels will be flat and not have the indentations. I have the prototypes (made from powder coated mild steel) at work and if I can find a memory stick and get PIP to work I will be posting pictures. I can offer the mild steel also if anyone is interested, and the price will be $60.00 per set. Shipping will run around $10.00 per set/package.
And of course don't forget the other goodies I am putting together:
And yes, I will be putting together the 30th anniversary goodies, and will be putting the list together as the event draws closer. (Yes there will be numbered key chains just like the 20th and the 25th just for a heads up)
[This message has been edited by silver 85 sc (edited 09-05-2015).]
I am working on Saturday. We (my brother and I he runs the CNC roller) are going to try the short material, and we will see what happens. If we can get the 48" material to work I should be able to get 10 sets! If It doesn't work I will have to buy some material and try again.
The panel bender was scheduled for production yesterday so I was unable to get the channels formed. The material is cut and waiting for bending. I will get a set bent tomorrow on break or before work, and hopefully I can get the rolling done. Will keep everyone posted. I have sheared enough material for 8 sets. So keep you fingers crossed.
I have run into one small problem. I am having trouble lining up the rivet holes. So I can do one of 2 things, make the holes bigger and include the rivets and washers, or they can be drilled on site. Give me your opinions and we will get them into production!! I have 2 sets that I need to trim, and will make more this week!! I have a gasket that I will set up and post pictures later.
Well I have an assembly and here are the pictures. These seem to be on the loose side, however the tracks match the samples that were sent to me. They will tighten a little bit when bolted in place due to the welded stud pulling the middle of the track. Maybe this is enough, Maybe they need some adhesive I will take suggestions. There are no holes for the rivets. I know that they look rectangular, but the windshield track does have the curve. I don't know if it is the right curve, but it is really close to what I have for a sample.
[This message has been edited by silver 85 sc (edited 04-21-2012).]
Originally posted by silver 85 sc: These seem to be on the loose side, Maybe this is enough, Maybe they need some adhesive I will take suggestions.
both of my cars the gasket was stuck to the tracks with some sort of adhesive. not sure if this was OEM or PO. Also the track was stuck to the roof sedection as well. Mine didn't leak, they are just rotted out.
Originally posted by FieroUte:
So just to clarify, this will fix the leaky sunroof without drilling into the body of the car? I'll take a set in stainless! Also, how hard is it to install?
Not necessarily. This will fix the problem of rotted sunroof gasket tracks that you encounter when replacing the gasket. But the leak you have could be from another problem. If you have ever pulled the rear clip off a Fiero there is a rubber gasket between the clip and roof section, i suspect that if that gasket were missing or damaged that may cause a leak too.
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Here we go! The first set is installed on my 86 SE fastback. And here is how it went!
Here the glass is removed
Here is the gasket removal using a putty knife to delicately remove the adhesive
Here goes the gasket
Yep tracks are completely shot
Cleaning the track slots
First piece successful!!
lining up the front clips. put one rivet in on passenger side then went over and marked the drivers side. Drilled out new rivet and then finished the holes in the track
Marked the driver's clip location
looking really pretty
Really really nice
Here comes the old gasket (It's all I have)
Here is the adhesive I used putting it in the same locations that the factory did
Now the glass is back in to let the adhesive set where it needs to
Here is how the studs look in the cab
Over all I think the install went very well. I did have a little issue with one of the side pieces, it seemed a little wide. So I put it in my vice and did a little edge to edge squeeze. For those that caught it I did not install 3 rivets on the windshield side. I am not sure they are needed and are a complete pain in the you know what to get in. After I was completed I thought that maybe these can be glued in. There are plenty of good adhesives that would do just as good a job as the rivets, but I will leave that up to the installer. So it is now 100% official they are now for sale.
put me down for a set....stainless is my first choice, if not available then i'll take the steel ones....shipping to 07764. also do you take paypal? i'm not in a hurry so if it takes a couple weeks to get them... no problem thanks al btw..way to go with the detailed instructions!!!
[This message has been edited by ace5514 (edited 04-23-2012).]
Would it be possible for you to post a list of what you believe the production/shipping order is so that interested members can get some idea of where we stand on the production list. Also, please post payment instructions.
------------------ 1984 Fiero, Black notchback, 355 SBC, 4 speed
I prefer pay pal since I have already had a customer lose a money order in the mail. I have one set ready to go, and have 6 sets ready to stud at work. It is on a first come first serve basis. I hope to have an answer tomorrow on when my material comes in for the next round (should be enough for 30 sets). I have been working on these every day. I also have to find some shipping tubes.
On an installation note I forgot to add when tightening the nuts only tighten until you see deflection in the track. Which reminds me I have to get some lock nuts. I am also thinking about getting rid of the rivet washers needed to install these. I think that I will make a strip that goes under the roof panel in the shape of an L. I know that this will make the installation go much smoother.
Shipping tubes will be here tomorrow. I have 6 sets ready for studding at work and the set I have ready, will ship when I get the shipping tubes. So I think by Monday I will have 6 packages ready for names and addresses. I do take paypal. Who wants to be a part of the first round?
like i said earlier, i am not ready for them just yet...so if there are others that need them right away i will wait for the second run. if you don't get these six sold then pm me the paypal info and total and i'll send payment. zip is 07764 and stainless is my first prefernce. i don't want to make someone wait if they really need them now, i haven't taken mine apart yet. thanks al