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Sunroof tracks Stainless and powder coated mild steel by silver 85 sc
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New price $60.00 plus shipping.

Well here goes, I am going to officially announce that I am going to produce new stainless and mild steel sunroof tracks or channels or whatever you want to call them. I hope to have the first run complete on Saturday. Since it appears that I will have to buy a full sheet of stainless to start I would like to get some verbal orders going. (notice I said verbal) I think I can get around 30 sets out of a 48" x 120" sheet of stainless. Price will be $75.00 plus shipping. Here is the original thread that started it all:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/060785.html

These will be made out of 20 ga (.036") 304 stainless steel with welded studs instead of the spot welded t-nuts (or the rivet nuts if I have problems studding them), so the channels will be flat and not have the indentations. I have the prototypes (made from powder coated mild steel) at work and if I can find a memory stick and get PIP to work I will be posting pictures. I can offer the mild steel also if anyone is interested, and the price will be $60.00 per set. Shipping will run around $10.00 per set/package.

And of course don't forget the other goodies I am putting together:

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/054658.html

And yes, I will be putting together the 30th anniversary goodies, and will be putting the list together as the event draws closer. (Yes there will be numbered key chains just like the 20th and the 25th just for a heads up)

Rich

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I'll make a verbal commitment to a stainless set.

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i hope im on the list for a stainless set just send me a PM when you have a set ready with total to 47356
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I'm in for the stainless set.
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I will take a stainless set. I had also responded to the earlier post.

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And as I said in the original thread Ill take a stainless set! Let me know when they are available.

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I will take a stainless set. Send me a note when available with shipping to 54302. Do you take PayPal? Thanks
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I'm in for a set of SS, already sent a PM.
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I am working on Saturday. We (my brother and I he runs the CNC roller) are going to try the short material, and we will see what happens. If we can get the 48" material to work I should be able to get 10 sets! If It doesn't work I will have to buy some material and try again.

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Update,

The panel bender was scheduled for production yesterday so I was unable to get the channels formed. The material is cut and waiting for bending. I will get a set bent tomorrow on break or before work, and hopefully I can get the rolling done. Will keep everyone posted. I have sheared enough material for 8 sets. So keep you fingers crossed.

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To late for a set to zip 75762. If not please include a set for me.

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To late for a set to zip 75762. If not please include a set for me.

Mike Parker
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Your on the list

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I would like a set of stainless, shipped to 59484.

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Report this Post04-17-2012 05:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for silver 85 scClick Here to Email silver 85 scSend a Private Message to silver 85 scEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Getting closer. Got some bending done, now for the rolling and studding!! And, from the looks of things I need to get some more stainless. The bends match up perfectly to the sample set I have!

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Should have 2 sets tomorrow. All I have to do is stud and drill. Have 7 sets cut out and have material for 9.
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I have run into one small problem. I am having trouble lining up the rivet holes. So I can do one of 2 things, make the holes bigger and include the rivets and washers, or they can be drilled on site. Give me your opinions and we will get them into production!! I have 2 sets that I need to trim, and will make more this week!! I have a gasket that I will set up and post pictures later.

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The ones the Fiero Store used to sell came without holes. You had to drill them yourself. I think leaving the holes undrilled would be fine.
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Well I have an assembly and here are the pictures. These seem to be on the loose side, however the tracks match the samples that were sent to me. They will tighten a little bit when bolted in place due to the welded stud pulling the middle of the track. Maybe this is enough, Maybe they need some adhesive I will take suggestions. There are no holes for the rivets. I know that they look rectangular, but the windshield track does have the curve. I don't know if it is the right curve, but it is really close to what I have for a sample.












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Put it to the test. Do you have a test mule to put it on to see how it fits?

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So just to clarify, this will fix the leaky sunroof without drilling into the body of the car? I'll take a set in stainless! Also, how hard is it to install?

Thanks!
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Originally posted by silver 85 sc:
These seem to be on the loose side, Maybe this is enough, Maybe they need some adhesive I will take suggestions.

both of my cars the gasket was stuck to the tracks with some sort of adhesive. not sure if this was OEM or PO. Also the track was stuck to the roof sedection as well. Mine didn't leak, they are just rotted out.

 
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So just to clarify, this will fix the leaky sunroof without drilling into the body of the car? I'll take a set in stainless! Also, how hard is it to install?

Thanks!
Tyler


Not necessarily. This will fix the problem of rotted sunroof gasket tracks that you encounter when replacing the gasket. But the leak you have could be from another problem. If you have ever pulled the rear clip off a Fiero there is a rubber gasket between the clip and roof section, i suspect that if that gasket were missing or damaged that may cause a leak too.

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Report this Post04-22-2012 10:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for silver 85 scClick Here to Email silver 85 scSend a Private Message to silver 85 scEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here we go! The first set is installed on my 86 SE fastback. And here is how it went!

Here the glass is removed



Here is the gasket removal using a putty knife to delicately remove the adhesive



Here goes the gasket





Gasket removed



Yep tracks are completely shot



Cleaning the track slots




Test fit




First piece successful!!



lining up the front clips. put one rivet in on passenger side then went over and marked the drivers side. Drilled out new rivet and then finished the holes in the track



Marked the driver's clip location



looking really pretty



Really really nice




Here comes the old gasket (It's all I have)


Here is the adhesive I used putting it in the same locations that the factory did


Now the glass is back in to let the adhesive set where it needs to



Here is how the studs look in the cab





Over all I think the install went very well. I did have a little issue with one of the side pieces, it seemed a little wide. So I put it in my vice and did a little edge to edge squeeze. For those that caught it I did not install 3 rivets on the windshield side. I am not sure they are needed and are a complete pain in the you know what to get in. After I was completed I thought that maybe these can be glued in. There are plenty of good adhesives that would do just as good a job as the rivets, but I will leave that up to the installer. So it is now 100% official they are now for sale.
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I would suggest a bead of gasket glue on the roof clip prior to installing the gasket rails just as an extra precaution.

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I would suggest a bead of gasket glue on the roof clip prior to installing the gasket rails just as an extra precaution.

Dave


I did that, forgot to mention it. Thanks Dave.

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put me down for a set....stainless is my first choice, if not available then i'll take the steel ones....shipping to 07764. also do you take paypal? i'm not in a hurry so if it takes a couple weeks to get them... no problem
thanks
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btw..way to go with the detailed instructions!!!

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I will take a set of stainless asap. I have a new gasket waiting to get installed. Please quote cost shipped to River John, NS B0K 1N0 via USPS Priority Post International.

Let me know how to pay.

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What sort of bolts did you use to secure them to the roof? Looks like regular rivets on the top side, bolts on the bottom?
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What sort of bolts did you use to secure them to the roof? Looks like regular rivets on the top side, bolts on the bottom?


These are welded studs. The studs are welded to the bottom side of the track. So on the bottom side all we need is a 6mm washer and nut. The rivets are 1/8" with 1/4" grip.

I have enough material cut out to make 6 sets right now. The windshield tracks are completely bent and rolled.

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I'm in for a set.
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OK, been a while since i ripped a set off....PM sent.

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Would it be possible for you to post a list of what you believe the production/shipping order is so that interested members can get some idea of where we stand on the production list. Also, please post payment instructions.

Thanks.

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I prefer pay pal since I have already had a customer lose a money order in the mail. I have one set ready to go, and have 6 sets ready to stud at work. It is on a first come first serve basis. I hope to have an answer tomorrow on when my material comes in for the next round (should be enough for 30 sets). I have been working on these every day. I also have to find some shipping tubes.

On an installation note I forgot to add when tightening the nuts only tighten until you see deflection in the track. Which reminds me I have to get some lock nuts. I am also thinking about getting rid of the rivet washers needed to install these. I think that I will make a strip that goes under the roof panel in the shape of an L. I know that this will make the installation go much smoother.

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Shipping tubes will be here tomorrow. I have 6 sets ready for studding at work and the set I have ready, will ship when I get the shipping tubes. So I think by Monday I will have 6 packages ready for names and addresses. I do take paypal. Who wants to be a part of the first round?

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like i said earlier, i am not ready for them just yet...so if there are others that need them right away i will wait for the second run. if you don't get these six sold then pm me the paypal info and total and i'll send payment. zip is 07764 and stainless is my first prefernce. i don't want to make someone wait if they really need them now, i haven't taken mine apart yet.
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The UPS man just dropped of a big box of tubes! I'll have 6 sets ready some time tomorrow. Who wants them?

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Your wasting your money on shipping tubes. The USPS has 2 different size triangle boxes that are free. You can order them straight off of www.usps.com
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Your wasting your money on shipping tubes. The USPS has 2 different size triangle boxes that are free. You can order them straight off of www.usps.com


So how do I get a 39" part in a 37" box? Do you want your parts showing up punched through the end of the box? The tubes I bought only cost me $1.81 ea, with plastic end caps.

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So how do I get a 39" part in a 37" box? Do you want your parts showing up punched through the end of the box? The tubes I bought only cost me $1.81 ea, with plastic end caps.

Rich


I guess you could tape two together if they are free. I have been known to make a "frankenbox" in my day.

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