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Starting NEW Body Kit from scratch by Mailmule
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Report this Post10-22-2008 06:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MailmuleClick Here to Email MailmuleSend a Private Message to MailmuleEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Look what I picked up at work today. What do you think? It is off a 2002 Mustang. Nice thing about it is that is is all Fiberglass, so it will be easier to cut and modify.


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I like it !

10 times much better than that other style you were considering.

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Its backwards.

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Its backwards.

Ditto... for functionality, anyway. If you reverse it and put it at the front of the hood, it'll extract heat from the radiator and help keep your front end planted at high speed.

Either way, I agree. It's much better than the T/A nostrils. IMHO, they only look good on the cars they came from.

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I do understand the functionality but this particular mod is just for the eye. I may put additional vents up front but we shall see.

Thanks for the input.

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Originally posted by Mailmule:

I do understand the functionality but this particular mod is just for the eye. I may put additional vents up front but we shall see.

Thanks for the input.


Can you post a picture of it turned the other way?
Good job on the car looking forward to seeing what you do next.

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Report this Post10-23-2008 06:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MailmuleClick Here to Email MailmuleSend a Private Message to MailmuleEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

The reason I don't want to put it the other way is because I am going to pick up the actuall scoop that goes on top of the hood as well. So, a raised scoop facing the other way will look a little off.

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FUNCTION IS KEY.... not just a scoop for no purpose and for looks only

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Report this Post10-25-2008 01:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MailmuleClick Here to Email MailmuleSend a Private Message to MailmuleEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

ok, latest pics and progress:

Cut up the Mustang hood to my liking:


The left overs:


Lining it up on the car:


And Yes, I did cut a hole in the hood to find a way of making it Functional at some point:


This is the first layer of Glass and final position:



Let me know what your thinking?

[This message has been edited by Mailmule (edited 10-25-2008).]

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I would suggest trying to keep that line in the scoop.

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Why make a mid-engine car look like it has an engine up front? Get a comaro or firebird, it's easier. In addition a Fireo can make good use of an extractor scoop up front. Back in the 70s we use call cars with none functional or unneed scoops etc Cosmetic Cars, still fits. BTW: I'm sure your end-result will look fine workmanship-wise. Mine Fieros are too out there scoops-wise for most, but each one works 100%.

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Report this Post10-26-2008 02:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Steven SnyderClick Here to visit Steven Snyder's HomePageClick Here to Email Steven SnyderSend a Private Message to Steven SnyderEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

I would at least mold it in flush with the hood... but as everyone else is saying.. why not turn it around and make it functional? even with a duct to it, its pointing the wrong way to be functional..

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Why in gods name did you glass it on top of the hood instead of flush?

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Rookie fabricator mistake but that is his car.

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OK, now that you all got that out of your systems. I know where you all stand. Thats cool, and like you said it is my car. But let me clarify a few things. The Fiero has NO hood scoop factory. So what is the difference if I add a few eye appealing body lines? I mean the mustang it came off of WAS a front engine car and this scoop wasn't even functional on that. Also, I did cut the hole in the hood so I could easily modify a tubing vent it toward the radiator for extra cooling.

And you ask why I didn't mount it flush? I have 2 reasons. First is I wanted a little bit of a raised look. Second is beacuse I couldn't cut the scoop down any more and still fit the additional inserts that go on top off the vented part. I would have literally have had to almost cut the origianl hood in Half loosing any structural integrity. I do however appreciate the comments good AND bad.

Here are some more pics (like it or not):




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Not bad.

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Well, pretty much done with the hood for now. A few spots I will fix before painting, but 95% done.

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Not bad at all!

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Neat!!

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From a purely cosmetic standpoint, I really like it.
Do you have the black plastic cover for the "opening"?

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Cool, you need a set of lake pipes to go with the scoop. Then ditch the spoiler and add a kickup to the back edge of rear decklid.

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You better take a mould off the whole thing now to make a new skin for your hood because that bondo will crack. There is no avoiding it as Bondo shouldn't be used as thick as you have used it. With Bondo, 1/8" is already too thick. It appears you have it 1/2" thick. Slam the hood down a few times. Save yourself some grief before painting it.

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Please don't take my suggestions wrong either as I am trying to save you some grief. The overall concept isn't bad. The execution will kill you though.
The scoop has potential to be functional with a few well placed vents..

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Mailmule, I like what you did. Closing in the sides to make it raised really gives it the look. And I agree with Aus about the bondo...

Also.. Aus, you nailed it with those vents in the front. Made a good idea even better!

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Looks Maranello....ish. I like it, it looks good. I even like adding the front vent idea. Yeah thick bondo is bad buisness. You may have better luck with that stuff....... whats it called........ kitty hair? You know its like resin/filler with fiberglass strands in it. Your doing great work. Keep it up.


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Cool, I will take in the advice and see what I can come up with. Although it appears I used alot of Bondo I really didn't. I used 2 layers of Glass first, then filled in with the Bondo/Glass. The bondo itself is merely the outer shaping layer. I have done this before on my old 76 camaro and the scoop outlasted the rest of the car. I will also be glassing the bottom side to give it a little more strength. The vents do look good and could well be my next move, Thanks!!

I am far off from painting and I use the car daily, so I will see first hand what kind of stress is put and where well before it gets color. And to answer the question, I do not have the actual scoop yet. I will ask my Boss this week to check on a price for me. Should get a bit of a discount. The cheapest I can find on my own is about $150 just for the bolt on scoop. If anyone has one just laying around LOL. I am pretty sure 99-04 will all fit.

Thanks again for everyones input.

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updates?

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Nothing just yet. The weather has been terrible and busy with work. Will get some up during the week though.

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Dude, you guys need to understand that 1/2 the fiero's stock frills aren't form follows function either...
Look at that spoiler.. it's plastic... look at the sunroof, I love it but it howls like a wolf when removed. It's a bondo nightmare but if it's for a mold it's be kewl
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Dude, you guys need to understand that 1/2 the fiero's stock frills aren't form follows function either...
Look at that spoiler.. it's plastic... look at the sunroof, I love it but it howls like a wolf when removed. It's a bondo nightmare but if it's for a mold it's be kewl
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The stock Fiero spoiler was designed to create downforce for the Indy pace car. It does work.

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any updates ????????????
4 pages back ?

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Please don't take my suggestions wrong either as I am trying to save you some grief. The overall concept isn't bad. The execution will kill you though.
The scoop has potential to be functional with a few well placed vents..



This is looking really nice. What about reverseing the scoop to work as an extractor?

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Bump for an update ?

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Well, pretty much done with the hood for now. A few spots I will fix before painting, but 95% done.

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If you leave the hole in the front closed grill it maybe and open it up back at the window I think then it would be functional

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Hey Mailmule,

Any updates ?

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That hood looks sweet!!

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Umm, updates? Another one bites the dust?

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i am make the same thing but mine is raised 1.5 inch in back if some one will resize pic i can make a thread !

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i'll be watching this thread i'm in the middle of my own body kit build based on the lambo gallardo check out my thread "been living in a cave" it has a link to my youtube video . i'm starting fiberglass this spring. i'm building my kit out of cardboard you should try it its easy to work with.

 
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Just a test here. If anyone is interested to see more photos of my progress, just pm me. I don't want to just start throwing pics up that nobody wants to see. I decided to go ahead and make my own body kit. I am starting with just some Construction Grade Foam and Balsa Wood for the form. Surprisingly the foam seems to be resilient to everything I have thrown at it (ie..crazy glue, resin, body filler etc...) So I am hoping when I go to actually start glassing my mold, it will hold up and I will be able to get more than 1 usable panel.











This is where I am at now. After spending hours designing this side scoop, I realized it was to low for the actuall drivers side intake, so I am trying to figure out how to keep it in place and make it functional on the other side. Any suggestions or comments?



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Report this Post03-12-2009 06:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MailmuleClick Here to Email MailmuleSend a Private Message to MailmuleEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Sorry All,

I haven't given up just stopped for a while. My tranny went on my everyday driver back in November, so I have been using the Fiero as my everyday car and well, I can't take it off the road to continue the kit just yet. My odometer just hit 180,000, so probably gonna need a new motoer and tranny soon. I can't see doing more work on the body until it is mechanically ok. It is still running dtrong though. I love this car.

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