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Wheel swap by Fieroto300zx
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I am planning on putting the torque star wheels on my 85 gt and they are 16 in rims from a Grand Prix now if I put them on in place of my stock 14 rims will it mess up the speedometer and if so how can I get it right ?
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Use a tire size that results in the exact same overall diameter of the 14" wheel/tire combination.

235/45-16 or 225/45-16 would be the closest matches to the stock diameter. The ride will be harsher and the tires will be wider. It might not look as nice as you would like, depending on the offset and width of the wheels.
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I would like a somewhat low profile tire but I also am doing a 3.4 swap and a paint job so I want it to look nice can I change a speed sensor or something so it will look nice and function properly
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Yes...you can change VSS gears.....(on a Fiero, this function is purely mechanical).

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/124546.html
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Were could I get some for a 16 in rim at ?
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Originally posted by Fieroto300zx:

I would like a somewhat low profile tire but I also am doing a 3.4 swap and a paint job so I want it to look nice can I change a speed sensor or something so it will look nice and function properly


How low a profile tire do you want? If you get tires that are significantly smaller diameter than the overall diameter of the stock tires, the gap between the tire and the wheel well will be that much larger, making it not look nice. The tire sizes I listed will look nice, and have about the same gap as stock wheels would have on your car.

What I meant by it maybe not looking as nice as you would like it to, is that if the wheels don't have the right offset, they may stick out past the fenders, or may not stick out enough close to the fenders. The wrong offset may also affect handling and increase stress on certain parts of the suspension. Changing the speed sensor gear won't fix that.
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Maybe a 175 60r16 ? Would those be good for the wheel wells of the car and would they help handling ?
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How do you post pictures on here and I can just show you the rims I would like to put on it ?
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um..175... no

click on that rectangle at the bottom of the page....Pennock's Image Poster.

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Originally posted by Fieroto300zx:

How do you post pictures on here and I can just show you the rims I would like to put on it ?


You want these I presume:


However they won't fit on a Fiero. The Grand Prix has a 5x115 bolt pattern, while the Fiero is 5x100. You would need to swap hubs to be able to install them. The offset might be ok, but they won't fit on stock Fiero hubs anyway.
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What size would work then the wheels are from a Grand Prix gt they are the torque star wheels like what tire height ?
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I see now thanks I just would like to know were to get a set of wheels that will fit and look nice but not break the bank
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Originally posted by Fieroto300zx:

Maybe a 175 60r16 ? Would those be good for the wheel wells of the car and would they help handling ?


Tire size is unrelated to wheel offset and backspacing. The wheels you're talking about are fairly wide (I think the stock GP tire sizes are 215/60-16 or 225/60-15). 175 would be quite narrow tires for those wheels. You would need a tire that's around the same width. However, the stock GP sizes are quite a bit larger in diameter than the stock 85 GT tires are, so it would throw the speedometer way off, and would make your car feel slower.
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I see now thanks I just would like to know were to get a set of wheels that will fit and look nice but not break the bank


It depends on what you want, really. I don't know what you think looks nice. I think the stock 86-88 15" lace wheels for the Fiero look nice. Some Subaru and Scion wheels will fit as well. There are many threads on the subject of what other OEM wheels will fit a Fiero, over the years. If you search through the forum, you can get a lot of information on that. Just remember that the Fiero hubs are 5x100, and the width/offset need to be appropriate for the Fiero suspension and body.
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If i got a set of 16in what kind of dimensions would I need for it except the 5x100 bolt pattern ?
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Originally posted by Fieroto300zx:

If i got a set of 16in what kind of dimensions would I need for it except the 5x100 bolt pattern ?


You need to know the width of the wheel in inches, and the offset of the wheel in mm.
Offset is the distance from the mounting surface to the center-line of the wheel.

You can search for threads that describe how these numbers will fit (or not).
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Do we have a troll? The username doesn't remind anyone of the famous "better car acquired" thread?

His question was mostly answered in the first post, I'm pretty sure if you can't figure out tire size and bolt patterns your not going to figure out a engine swap.

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Originally posted by Fieroto300zx:

Maybe a 175 60r16 ? Would those be good for the wheel wells of the car and would they help handling ?


Ridiculous size - I don't even think those exist.

General rule of thumb for "plus sizing" is up 1 inch on wheel diameter - down 1 profile size from stock size.

So stock 205/60R-15 becomes 205/55R-16 or 205/50R-17 (front)
Rear 215/60R-15 would be 215/55R-16 and 215/50R-17.
But check manufacturer's tire size charts for overall outside diameter.

As mentioned, Grand Prix won't fit. Look at older Grand AM, Cavalier/Sunfire, PT Cruiser etc.
OEM wheels that fit list: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-2-075864.html

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Theres a whole list out there of stock OEM wheels from different cars that are bolt ons for Fiero. Most of them can be bought pretty cheap. Sebring Convertible wheels fit Fiero, and I had a very nice set I took off mine and sold to a friend for $75. They were 16".
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To jmbishop I'm just trying to learn here I'm I thought this is what the forum was for no need to try to be offensive ? I have owned my 85 since I was 17 I'm 19 now and just trying to learn these things only south you can learn from repair manuals
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Your username is suspicious and you fail to grasp things to the point where it seems like your playing dumb on purpose. No need to be offended, just keep posting and if your not a troll you'll be fine but your last post doesn't help, troll or not you'll deny it.


This video gives visuals of what the important measurements are, search for threads, we have offset charts and lists of oem wheels that fit.

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You might look at "Show off your custom rims here!" thread in the General chat to see different combinations.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/052912.html

Also the "Tire Rack" has some great tools for determining what fits your car. They have rims and tires. I have bought several set of tires and rims from them. They delivered my rims and tire all mounted to your door.

http://www.tirerack.com
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I got a set of nice 'star' wheels from Tire Rack brand new delivered for $75 each. To me thats very cheap for a new wheel. If you want cheaper, I still suggest looking at the list, then at the cars those are on and find some locally at a salvage yard. Your likely going to find a set of 4 for less than $150. List includes many Chrysler products (Shadow, Caravan, Voyager, PT Cruiser, K-car bodies), some Volkswagen, lots of other GM (Cavalier, Sunfire/Sunbird, Grand Am, etc). Pretty much any FWD of any of those is a direct fit offset...an inch or so different in/out dont make much difference.
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Lots of Subaru and scion wheels fit as well.
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Pretty much anything that works on a VW New Beetle will be ideal for a Fiero.
My ideal "universal" Fiero wheel would be 17x7, with a 35mm offset. (Just my opinion. Some prefer a 40-42mm offset, which will tuck them under the car just a bit more.)
Tire sizes (if you want to rotate them) would be a 225/45-17. If you want to stagger them, 225s or 235s in the rear, 215s in the front.
That's pretty much guaranteed to keep you out of trouble, and they're common sizes. Available everywhere.
Bolt circle for all Fieros is 5x100.

Subaru wheels also may work, but they generally have more offset (~48-50mm.) They'll tuck waaay under the car, and may interfere with the rear struts, depending on width and offset. Factory Subaru (and Toyota/Scion) wheels will also need to have the centerbore enlarged. They are both smaller than the Fiero's 57mm centerbore.)

This info is not applicable to the front of an 88, but most of us know that already.


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pep boys is now selling discontinued NICE 5 spoke polished wheels for $43 each. proline 333 & 950
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So a 35 to 42 offset is what I'm looking for right I found a nice set of 5x100 16 with a 40 offset
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Grand Ams had the same bolt pattern as the Fiero and I believe the torque star wheels were available on the later model Grand Ams. I'm not sure if the late models were 5 x 100 bolt pattern, though.

The 40 mm offset will fit nicely. I'm running American Racing Estrellas on one car and MSR 105 on another. Both are 40 mm offset and they fill the wheel wells very well. I also have a set of Pacer wheels that are the same offset and they fit well, also.

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Would you guys recommend the eibach 1 inch lowering springs ? Do they make the handleing a lot better I mean they are $300 I don't wanna spend the money on them if they are not good
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Fiero handling is already among the best stock cars out there. For street use, you wont it feel much different, but may improve the looks if you like it lower. Lots of used the Eibachs. You will have to have a new 4 wheel alignment. To me it was never worth the bang for my buck functionally. It does look better lower to fill up the tops of the fenderwells.

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I will probably just keep it stock then and a unrelated question will the fiero gt stock exhaust fit on a 3.4 l ?
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I will probably just keep it stock then and a unrelated question will the fiero gt stock exhaust fit on a 3.4 l ?


Please start new threads for totally unrelated questions. Having a thread about wheels come back to the top, but everyone is not talking about exhaust in it, is not helpful to others looking for the same information. Thanks.

The manifolds will bolt to the heads on the Camaro/Firebird 3.4L. You'll need different manifolds for the DOHC 3.4, and I believe for the 3400 as well.
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Grand Ams had the same bolt pattern as the Fiero



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Yeah, I just looked up some Grand Am wheels and they were 5 x 115. I don't know what year they changed from the 5 x 100 pattern, so I looked it up. It looks like the Grand Am and the Vibe were the only Pontiacs that shared the bolt pattern with the Fiero.
http://www.discountedwheelw...attern_Reference.cfm
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Yeah, I just looked up some Grand Am wheels and they were 5 x 115. I don't know what year they changed from the 5 x 100 pattern, so I looked it up. It looks like the Grand Am and the Vibe were the only Pontiacs that shared the bolt pattern with the Fiero.
http://www.discountedwheelw...attern_Reference.cfm


And the J-body Sunbird/Sunfire.
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What is different In a 88's front end some one mentioned it and I might buy a 88 with a blown motor for my swap so I can still drive my 85 ?
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88 suspension will not bolt into the front, cutting and welding is required. The rear of a 88 where bigger improvements where made will swap in easier, the cradle bolts in but the tops of the struts are closer together so you have to run coilovers and modify the Strut towers.
 
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Please start new threads for totally unrelated questions. Having a thread about wheels come back to the top, but everyone is not talking about exhaust in it, is not helpful to others looking for the same information. Thanks.



I still am not convinced he's not a troll.
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Is there no way I can convince you that I seriously own a fiero and that I am not a "troll" lol I'm just trying to learn so I can do my own swaps and just have a nice fiero
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Is there no way I can convince you that I seriously own a fiero and that I am not a "troll" lol I'm just trying to learn so I can do my own swaps and just have a nice fiero


I'd say dont worry about it, keep being yourself, if legit it will show. Have pics of your project?
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